New Kingdom Hearts title to be shown at Tokyo Game Show!
Well, Square-Enix Party 2007 has been and gone, yet very little in the way of Kingdom Hearts was shown – the main focus was Final Fantasy’s 20th Anniversary. However, there was one small piece of info that may quench some thirsts…
A small videoclip was shown (but not released outside the show), announcing that the new Kingdom Hearts title will be shown at this year’s Tokyo Game Show (TGS)! The videoclip was an interesting (yet brief) montage of new scenes, showing the soldiers from the secret trailer fighting in PS3-style graphics, a heart-shaped explosion (making the logo), and Sora, Donald and Goofy walking towards the screen.
In addition, you can click ‘Read More’ for some more information in another recent interview with Nomura-san!
Source: KH Insider, TheWertle of GameFAQs and Xaldin of KH-Vids.
Scenario Mysteries Interview
In [KHII FM+], many mysteries are answered but many new mysteries are also born.
In this version, thing relating to additional scenes are included, but during the story there are some questions that pop up, so we’ll see if Nomura can’t point us in the right direction.
In [KHI], the King searches for a keyblade in the realm of darkness, but when he meets Ansem the Wise, is the realm of light keyblade he has the one that Sora is currently using?
Nomura: No, the King has the ability to use keyblades from both the Realm of Darkness and of Light. This is an important point, there isn’t just one keyblade from each world, just as many as there are people with qualified hearts.
During the meetings, the members of Organization XIII are sitting in chairs. Is the height of these chairs determined by things like their skills and abilities?
Nomura: No, the height of the chairs is not fixated, they move. That is to say, the height is up to each person. The leader, Xemnas, is always the highest and to be at the same height as him would have a pretty bad feeling, so the other members wouldn’t do that. (laughs)
In the end of Sora and Riku’s stories in [KH Re:CoM], Roxas looks back while Hayner and the rest are walking and eating ice cream, and without seeming to care, Hayner and the others continue walking. Is this because they can’t see Roxas?
Nomura: Well that, it’s just because they don’t know Roxas that they don’t notice him, not because they can’t see him. At that time, right after Xemnas explains Roxas’ name, Axel says to leave things to him. Then, Roxas seems jealous of how Hayner and the others are enjoying themselves while eating ice cream, and Axel interprets this as him wanting some ice cream, so he is obliged to go buy him some.
In the real Twilight Town, didn’t Roxas cross paths with Hayner and the others and make aquaintances with them?
Nomura: I suppose. You can think whatever you want about that.
What triggered Roxas’ seperation from the Organization?
Nomura: Because he kept having recurring dreams of Sora, someone he didn’t know, he felt he needed to leave the Organization to find out who these people he didn’t know were. Because Axel didn’t want him to go, he didn’t tell Sora about Roxas in Castle Oblivion, did he?
n Riku’s ending in KH:ReCoM, could you tell us the meaning of the scene where the King and Riku are walking together and Riku suddenly plops down.
Nomura: That’s because Riku realized he couldn’t completely get rid of the darkness inside of him. The King mentioned it in [KHII], that because Riku held Xehanort’s heartless in his heart he disappeared from the King’s sight. It’s a sort of foreshadowing. In this scene, the King’s face looks worried for a moment because he felt that Riku might eventually no longer be there. Riku headed towards Diz in order to restore Sora’s memories to normal, but in the end his departure from the King was so he wouldn’t show his preparations to use the darkness.
Could you tell us at what point Riku covered his eyes?
Nomura: When he departed from the King. You don’t know after the scene, but in Riku’s ending in [KH Re:CoM], when he comes to wherever Diz is, he’s already covered his eyes.
Please confirm some things about Castle Oblivion. In KHII FM’s additional event “The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep”, you can gather from Xigbar and Zexion’s conversation that Castle Oblivion existed in the Inbetween Realm before the birth of the Organization. The Organization then found it and used it for experiments about memories and to look for the Chamber of Awakening, right?
Nomura: Yes. Since their conversation was about Marluxia’s entry, they discovered the Castle before that. In fact its use, according to the Other Ansem Report 7, was for only 13 Organization members. Namine awoke in Castle Oblivion, but because she and Roxas were born at the same time, half of the Organization moved to the Castle.
In KHII FM’s additional event “To Put an End to Everything”, Sora says “It should have been easy to say thanks to Namine, but I couldn’t say it”. At this point in time, does Sora remember the things that happened with Namine?
Nomura: If he remembers, it’s because Namine’s existence was made possible by Sora, and when Namine and Roxas return to Kairi and Sora, many things were connected. Since Sora never got to say thanks to Namine, please think of that as a hint.
In the additional event “Farwell to a Friend”, there’s a scene where Axel tells Roxas “You really do have a heart, don’t you”. What is the actual case here?
Nomura: In this scene, it ends bringing up more mysteries about Roxas, so for the answer, maybe take care to follow your hunches well, it’s also related to Xehanort’s memories, but I can’t give any specifics now.
We’d like to inquire about the new secret movie “Birth By Sleep”. In the new event “The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep”, Xigbar mentions a “group that wields keyblades”. Is he talking about the 3 armored people in the movie?
Nomura: Yes, Xigbar witnessed them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise.
The Lingering Sentiment is the same as the armored youth in the movie, but when he fights Sora he mentions “Aqua” and “Ven”. Are those the names of the other 2?
Nomura: Yes, the blue haired girl is Aqua
What is the armored youth’s name?
Nomura: His name appeared once in code in the 2006 Tokyo Game Show Promotional Video. Also, Ven is actually a nickname, his real name is a little bit longer. Sora, Riku, and Kairi’s names can be seen as “Sky, Land, and Sea”, the 3 armored people’s names take the shape of different properties of the world “Water, Wind, and Earth”.(In other words find the Latin word for Earth and we’ve got him!)
Ven looks an awful lot like Roxas…
Nomura: I can’t give any specifics about that. He may just resemble him, and if there is a connection, Sora may be related too. What I can say right now is that these mysteries are all connected to the story.
In the beginning, the armored youth’s eyes are blue, but at the end they change to gold. Is this revealing a change in him?
Nomura: I can’t give specifics about this either… I think everyone’s imaginations are pretty capable so please try and anticipate a lot of things.
I have some question
1 what place was it that the three knights were fighting and what kind of enemy were they fighting?
2 How was Soras, Donalds and goofys clothes and what kind of place was it where they were?
3 How was the heart shaped explosion? Was it something that triggered it?
4 Could it be something special with that they shown it in PS3 graphics?
there was very little new information that he even wanted to give out, nad all the stuff he did give out, we already knew, i want to see tthat video now
Yes who isnt. But before the clip but you wasnt allowed to record it so lets hope that SE will give it out or that someone has recorded it in secret
im sure by the time it is shown at the tokyo game show it will be allover the interent, then again, someone from the company might decide to leak th hell out of it
Well i really hope it will come out soon. I really want to see it.
Also the armoured youths name appeared in code during last year TGS. Could that mean anything special?
just that he gave it to us early, not much, even though he didnt confirm it, he did say that find the latin name for earth, and we got him, since it is terra, that has to be his name
But could it be something with that they already has started with the game
i think i found out the rest of vens name its,ventus.
i think i found out the rest of vens name its,ventus.
Good find. Why did you post twice. I think aqua is gonna be here full name though.
http://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-ii-final-mix/83616-my-theory-aw-crap-not-another-one-dx.html
Might be something might be not but worth to check out.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w129/KagePhoenix/ESscan.jpg
Is this terra or Ven?
its way too hard to tell, but it might be ven, i think eyes look blue
Yeah, just for the record guys the names are Ventus, Aqua and Terra, so everyone was right!
As for the video, no cameras were allowed whatsoever. You camera, you get owned! :D
Oh, and in that pic it’s Ven, but that was an early design of him from the 3rd quarter of last year, his face and the secret movie hadn’t been finalised by then.
Ok thanks guys
now, is the game that is supposdly coming out ofr the psp or the ds, is that gonna be involving these charactersm or are they apart of the next main game?
Well Nomura said that it would be a new serie that still is a kingdom hearts game. He also wanted to do it on a “hearty console” and I think that the ds is the on that is the best selling of the handhelds. But I dont know if the characters wil be in this new serie or in the KH3.
Im guessing there in Kh3, and this new handheld game will be the last we see with sora and folk.
no.7 i found vens full name on google i just put in latin translations and it shows a box where u can type it in.and i pushed the post button twice on accident.and they didnt say how sora and co. looked like?r they older,even though donald and goofy never change but is sora diffrent?does anyone know when this side story game is coming out?
We dont know yet(at least not to my knowledge.) since the game isnt out there isnt any backstory behind it. so we dont know if its 10 years in the future, or 10 in the past or present. Im jsut guesssing that it will involve sora one last time.
Please please please bring this game out very fast for my Game Boy Color! I’ve been soooooo waiting for a KH game on GBC to go alongside my Pokemon games!! Do you guyz think the rumour about Kingdom Hearts vs. Capcom is true!?
I think it would be really cool ’cause that means I could use Ennis Del Mar and fight Xehanort! Hopefully they’ll get Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal’s likenesses so their characters don’t look crap! And hopefully they’ll get the mountain arena just right, and when the spine snaps it should sound real, not that fake Venom stuff from Marvel vs. Capcom 2!!
So yeah, KH Keyblade Century Battle should come out on GBC, then KH3 on PSone and KH4 on GameCube following the traditionz!! Homiez believe me see me rapping and believe me that I’m bring this to you freestyle from the MC Honaldo!!
Okay why would they put it on a gameboy color when there are two newer version of it. And I dont think that they do any more games for the GB color. Actually I dont think that it has come out any games on that for years.
Also why on a PS one. They dont do any games for that any more either. They dont sell the PSone any more. Again there is two more newer version of it and the first KH game was on a ps2.
And if a KH4 will come out then probly the gamecube will be really old. They havent really done a KH3 yet. Also I think that the main KH serie will always be on the PS versions.
It will prbly never come out a KH game on a GB color, PSone or on a game cube.
please, please sora, if you ventured itno another thread here, you can see why none of us wants to go down that road again, lets, for the love of god, not talk about what consoles the next main game will be on
man i wanna see that clip they showed!and i really hope that this next game is soras last.its just not KH without him,new series or not.
Yeah i agree. I think after one game without sora, i wouldent buy another one. And nicely put oblivion
i made a typo i mean i hope this ISNT his last game,cause i wouldnt really buy it if he wasnt there.
the thing is, i cant wait to see what they do when soraisnt the main character, cause there is much left of the kingdom hearts stroy left to tell, that sora isnt obviously apart of. it wont be the same, but the series needs a new twist, unfortunalty thats why alot of people hated the roxas part of kh2, cause that was something new
i didnt hate it becuase it was someting new persay, i hated it because when i got kingdom hearts 2, i wanted to play as sora, and heres this blonde haired boy whom ive never seen before, that suddenly we have to do useless tasks with like collect money.
But A lot of people became big fans of Roxas o_o……
like me. lol. Yea i agree, sora’s part was much more fun to play as. But i still love roxiee xD
Well theres alot about kingdom hearts as Oblivion said that havnt been telld. Mickeys part in the realm of darkness and Roxas time from his bearth to dead. Thats two things that Nomura want to tell. Also is the knights something thats new. We really dont know if thats in the past or the future or about the time at the end of KH2.
true, people did liek roxas, but trust me, the majority hated him
Hated Roxas? Mwuahaha, have a look over at KH Insider and KH-Vids. Trust me, as weird as it is, Roxas fanboys are a lot more die-hard than Sora fanboys: maaaany people loved Roxas.
I was pretty much neutral towards him. He was cool, but he seemed kinda shallow after the first four hours – there were like two more scenes with him throughout the rest of the game lol.
Haha, well despite not being an actaull fan i will say that those 2 remaining scenes with roxas were cool, and fun to watch.
yeah and i wanna know y ventus looks like him.
Well actually I didnt like Roxas from the beginning when I played KH2. The reason was that I wanted to play like Sora. But at the end I was started to got really interested in Roxas. So now im curios during what he did during his lifetime
well, i guess it was just the people i knew who hated him, i was like you golden, i was neutral, i didnt hate him cause i knew he was connected some how to sora, cause i knew he wasnt gonna be random
Lol’d yeah, would’ve been crazy if they just threw him in there as a completely new character who had no relation to the old characters lol.
I always though he was kinda cool ’cause of the Deep Dive stuff, and he had a much more interesting back-story than Sora himself, but he lost points in my opinion because Nomura and Nojima suddenly forgot him after the first four hours of writing lol.
Then suddenly like an hour before the end: “Oh, Nomura-san, we’re forgetting a characer I feel!” “Yeah you’re right… it’s…” “YEN SID!!”
Ten minutes later they suddenly decided to throw in a Roxas scene for the sake of it, and couldn’t fit in another Yen Sid scene lol.
wwell, yen sid scares me, old coot
I wanted to see what kinda power yen sidd had, he looked imposilbly strong, and if hes the kings teacher, then what? HE must be like, invinsible.
lol yen sid… wth.
And you know. When I first played kh2. I was pretty upset too, that it wasnt Sora. Even if Roxas part was a bit interest… I was thinking the whole time, “Man I miss Sora, WHERE IS HE?!” and Yeah. When I finally got Sora i was so happy. But then when I knew Roxas was gone, While playing Sora throughout the game,(dont get me wrong I LOVE PLAYING soras part) i was like … “I miss Roxas, now.” LOL. So yeah, I guess i started like Roxas after a while into the game. And now, hes one of my favorite chars.
But yeah, Sora makes Kingdom hearts, “KINGDOM HEARTS” isnt that a reason why people like the game? Sora’s a unique Character. And trust me, Im sure so many fans will be so upset if the new KH game doesnt have Sora.. Like how Nomura said its possible for Sora not to be in it. And also, they say the next project isnt going to be called kingdom hearts III and possible not to have Sora as a main character. it’s Like FFVII. Cloud was the main character, and after a while they created another project that isn’t based in the FFVIII game but it was about Vincent. You know, that game… Dirge of cerberus? It was really different.
I hope when they make the new project… It’s as interesting and addicting like KH2. Hopefully it isn’t to different, since it might be a sequal lol.
I never thought Sora was an original character actually. I mean he’s pretty much the same as many other main characters – save friends, work out mystery etc. Nice kinda character, sure, but you can find him in pretty much any game.
Roxas was very similar to Cloud as a character, yet more naive, which made me more interested in him.
Meh, just my opinion.
see, for vincent, thye almost had to make a game for him, since he was an optional character, most people didnt even have or knew about him unless they had a guide or help, but it was based around the vii, just not directly.
and you know who else is similar to roxas? Reks, form final fantasy xii, i know thats random beyond belief, but i started playing that game again, and it needed to be said.
I think that if a game is centered around roxas it needs to be a side game, I would definetly be upset if sora wasnt a main charecter in a platform game, but not so much if he wasnt for a handheld game. In fact, i would like to get to play as roxas in a side game much like com, and then get to go back to sora for the next platform game, like KH2. its a nice little taste of something new, but it doesnt diviate from the main charecter wever grown to love.
Eh, Many people say that Nomura isn’t working KHIII. And for some reason that pisses me off. lol.
where did you hear that ashlayy? cause kh, is nomura’s project, and i dont think he would want a kh game to come out and he wasnt apart of it, so anyways, where did you hear that?
Lol, people are probably saying this beause MGS4 is Kojima’s last MGS game. Everyone thought that Kojima and Metal Gear would be together forever, but apparently it seems he’s going to let other people take the game on after him.
So people are beginning to think that if the almost unbreakable MGS-Kojima bond can be broken, the KH-Nomura bond has been broken too.
Trust me, he GAVE UP Final Fantasy for good after V13 just so he could be with this series and other original titles. He ain’t stepping aside anytime soon! :D
Will this be out on PS2 also or no?
Well Nomura stated that final mix+ was his last game for the ps2
Yeah, the next game released is going to be handheld andway, and then after that, the PS2 wil lbe way out of date
games will still be made for the ps2 for about another 4-6 months, then after that it would be rare to see them out for the ps2
No no. I meant, people say that Nomura said, that he isn’t working on KHIII yet. Sorry my mistake.
Oh i’m ashlay btw.
Oh, nah he isn’t working on KH3 yet.
The next game isn’t KH3, that’ a looong way off.
we wont be seeing any real work on it untill final fantasy xiii is done
actually not until Final Fantasy Versus XIII is done – a separate game which the KH team is handling. Final Fantasy XIII is a different game, being made by the Final Fantasy X team. Versus XIII won’t be out until the end of next year now, at the earliest.
So yeah… lloooonnngg way away!
didnt think he was sear heading that prject too, knew the original, but didnt know for versus, thanks golden
Well lets hope that he start working on it earlier
actually, i heard that the game(final fantasy xiii) was gonna come out at the end of this year or begining of next year, so in terms of that scale, it really isnt that far off.
final fantasy XIII and Final fantasy XIII versus are two different games right?
Yes, long wayyyyyy… and it better be worth it T_T! Nah, it will. I can feel it… Because of what I seen in the kh2fm secret ending, it looks worth the wait. And if Nomura is working on ffxiii versus then that sht will be great too! I’m going for it. It will keep me occupied while I wait for the new KH game lol.
Nomura isn’t really doing anything with Final Fantasy XIII anymore, he just did character designs and is overseeing how they are implemented – he’s also overlooking the story which is being written mainly by Motomu Toriyama and Kazushige Nojima.
Versus XIII is his main project, which he is directing with the KH1/2 team working on it. In other words it has a similar gameplay and storytelling style, and music is by Yoko Shimomura again. Nomura and Nojima are doing the story as usual, but I’ve heard there’s involvement from someone else as well.
FF13 itself can’t release until after March next year now (new announcement which we just made at FF Insider), so I’m guessing the earliest for Versus will be Christmas ’08, but probably early ’09 now. Which means the next console KH game can’t be any earlier than 2010, going by current calculations.
Who knows, something could change in this time – just wait until TGS, and things will be made clearer! :D
Oh, and anyone wondering why I went so crazy on Jon in the other topic, sorry, it had to be done. I’ve given him his chance to walk out safely from this one, he’s refused it many times, so game over.
I win.
no one was gonnaa stop golden
well i agree with the fact that alot of the story wont involve sora…numora has already stated a kh game will have very little or no sora at all…we still need to find out why the heartless came to be…and who created them….i mean thats what ansem wanted to do right….he still hasnt found that out and he’s dead now so maybe mickey will take over and find out…who knows lol…all i can say is that the future of kh is lookin bright…and if i have to buy a handheld console to play the next…then so be it…i dont wanna miss a minute of kh i mean i only got grasp of kh com from kh 2….ohhh and one more thing….i think the bit with roxas was great…all new and fresh….and i dont know about the release date for kh game…i mean after all square enix will have two teams doin two projects…one doin ff and the other doin kh…so it might not be 2010
I really hope not, because i dont know if ill wanna play it in 7 more years, it might grow out of style. I Dunno, i think ill be a kh fan forever, but i cant see teh future, or know what Future me holds in store. I want it to be sooner than 2010.
Maybe he isnt dead, just bare with me here. That device he was using, was suppose to break down the heart into data…but failed cause the heart was too complex, what if that short circuit gave it more power, and instead of taking kingdom hearts, it took him instead…and i can only hope it isnt gonna be another 4 years till the next new game, i wont be able to take it
It could be Oblivion, riku seemed very open to let him do what he wanted…”His hearts decided, we cant cange that” and then ansem said “Riku, you know what to do” as if they had planned it out like that. Maybe Ansem became a part of kingdom hearts or something. and i know, ill die if i have to wait 4 years.
same here. Ill die with you lol.
what i go away for a week and someone steals my identity
Actually Square has about seven or eight teams working in tandem right now on different games. Come to think of it, it’s probably more like fifteen.
Anyways, much more than two! :)
yeah, not only yougot the two xiii games, but you also got the kh filler, the main game that they are getting ready to start on, a new game that look wesome, the last remnant, and it does look awesome, and probably some more that they havent announced either
Does anyone know when the TGS is? Or when we will get that new video?
the tgs this year will be from september 20th to the 23rd
O, so its not even close. i thought they would give a release date in June.
No, i thought it was supposed to be released this fall.
If the next installment comes out on a portable, I pray to God that they do not screw it up like they did COm on GBA.
They will sell it to whatever system sells better. If the PSP has more sales, then they will Distribute it on that, if the Nintendo DS has more sales, then they will bring it out for the DS instead. its whatever market is bigger.
i dont think it was a screw up though, they probably could have done better with the battle system, but i think it did ok for a filler game at least
I think this is more up to Square to decide where the KH fanbase is bigger – if they just chose by sales numbers, then we can confidently say the next one would be DS (where all games are generally gimicky, sadly).
Actually, I’m pretty darn sure this will be on DS now – I just remembered the KH team is also working on a game called It’s a Wonderful World on the DS right now, so that’s probably Nomura letting his team get to know the console.
Then, when they bring the next spin-off there, it means that the team will know what they’re doing and can get straight to work.
As for Square’s team count, don’t forgot Crisis Core, Project Sylpheed, upcoming Mana titles, their two mobile teams, the two Crystal Chronicles teams, the FF re-release team, the other side-story team and a few more particular teams I’ve forgotten. There’s a lot! :D
Wow, i guess that Square is pretty Busy right now, more power to them. And i think that the game will be for the DS too, from a marketing standpoint, i think nintendo handheld will sell better, and will have more systems sold, therfor theres a higher possibility for game sales. However Seing as how Sony Currently owns distribution rights (KH and KH2) they might buy it out over nintendo, and it could very well be for the PSP.
does anybody hav any idea of wat chasers ar, as mentioned in the kh lll trailer? Im wondering if they ar like heartless or nobodies. i think theyre things that try to take a keyblade from its master and have it for ther own!! that was probably the old man in the secrt trailer, a chaser!!!!!…
…Pretty wild guess, huh :)
Or it’s just a person who persues sombody
Sony has KH 1 and 2, but they don’t have what you call ‘distribution rights’ – these will always belond to Square.
Also, remember that Nintendo has Chain of Memories anyways, so track record for spin-offs would suggest Nintendo might see this one.
Kh3 will reveal the birth of destiny islands too!
And Kairi’s winding up from a princess to an islander.
Earth in latin is “humus” or “terra”
So, i guess that’s his name Humus ^_^
well sorry that comment was useless
^_^
Pretty much, and i know that Square has all property rights, but you have to have a certain “share” almost from the company that created it to distribute it, and for both platform games, that belongs to Sony. Its almost like copyright laws.
Ah yes, but as I said, Nintendo has the only side-story so far. This next KH game is for a portable, and is also a side-story, and seeing as DS is owning the PSP sales-wise, expect it to go DS.
Nomura’s team is already working on the DS with It’s a Wonderful World, so they know what they’re doing. :D
Yes, which is what i was talking about, however i didnt know that the DS was killing psp sales. So thank you golden. True, if they know the workings of the system(touch screen Tech) they might have a better oportunity makin it for the DS. Personally i cant think of a reason not to. BTW golden, do you know when this game is supposed to come out?
Do you think may b this next game will be a spinoff to progress further kh games, like CoM? I’m thinking this next game will be on a portible console, like the psp or the ds, if theyre not out of date by then.
if sora’s not in this next game ill be pissed off, so it better be worth it.
Hi May, I had a theory on the chasers, go to the theories thread and look.
Enigimatic Soldier, we alread covered that. And i Wasnt riku turned into a heartless when Xehanorts Heartles to him over. Yeah right? but what happened to his nobody, he was never spoken of. anyone kno?
If it yopu take that literally, he was taken over, which i guess you could say that he was turned itno a heartless, and yes his nobody has yet to be mentioned…but what if i did. I said this a while ago, but ever wonder why roxas and axel were so close?
Actually I dont think Riku became a heartless. he just went over to the darkside. But it could be interesting if he did. I say he was kinda like Malieficent.
And if the next game is a spin-off with more than one title. Then I really cant understand why they put it on a handheld.
In response to 7′s question:
I’m afraid not. :D
Since there’s no official announcement of the game yet (as in press releases – sure we know what it is and that it exists, but Square hasn’t set up an official site for it, etc), I haven’t been sent any press emails with different pieces of news (whether NDA or non-NDA lol), so I have nothing concrete.
Lookin at the timeline though, I’d say Japan would see that spin-off next Christmas. The next major (PS3) game will probably be 2011, but it could happen as early as 2010 if we’re lucky.
Besides that, not much else I can estimate upon! :)
Food for thought, I was watched the secret trailer again and it me thinking that the bald guy we see may in fact might not be Xehnort. I think this simply because seeing the guys uniform that he was wearing. In COM and KH2, Org. 13 all shared the same uniforms. What’s to stop that from the heartless side. The bald guy uniform looks just like Ansem’s from KH.
I think that Xehnort is dead for good as of KH2. I think we are going to be dealing with a new boss.
I dont think many people thought that was him, like me i thought it was the brown haired guy whos eyes turned yellow.
Since Xemnas eyes were yellow, what if there was a power that allowed Xehanort to trigger his nobody and heartless but still able to turn back…
We cant really tell if Xehanort is done or not. For the games that (prbly) will happen in the future I dont think that he will became a boss. But it could be someone thats related to him in any way. But I think that it will be something about him in a game that is before when KH 1 was started. Like before he met Ansem the wise.
Some more food for thought…Does the pendant that Sora wears around his neck have any significance. We all have seen it outside of Sora. This leads me to believe that Sora has an even greater purpose.
Ive also thought of that. Unfortuanely I have no really answer but as you said hammers I think that it shows that Sora has a big purpose.
Right. You look at the contours of Sora’s keyblade and the see the shape of the crown pendant. I know that the key chain attached to his keyblade is of Mickey’s head (Disney logo).
I wonder what Golden’s take on this. The crown pendant is a predominant symbol through the whole series.
More food for thought. Think the KH creators will follow through with the romance story arc between Sora and Kiari. Since this a trade thing throughout the majority of FF.
Something was said already about either riku or sora being apart of some sort of warrior clan
It has? Well it would make sense. But on Soras keyblade Oblivion isnt there his crown as a keychain.
just went in on te KHInsider and saw at the latest new an interwiev. When i read it there was one line that caught me.
In an interview with the official KH website, Tetsuya has already confirmed that these masked fighters aren’t our three heroes, but of course that doesn’t mean that there aren’t connections…
So does that mean that the heroes will be Sora or hasnt they been revealed yet?
The Oblivion keyblade was fashioned Maleficent theme.
hammers, when he said keyblade oblivion, he was asking me a question, not refering to the oblivion keyblade. But the kingdom key has mickey’s outline of his head as the keychain. and if you actually look at the blade, it has that symbol, if you look carefully that is
Anyone think about what a crown usually is? Royalty, Maybe he is like the decendant of a king. I mean, we dont know his Father, so maybe if like Terra (the yellow eyed guy in the secret movie ((im not claming to know it is, just an example))) Think of it Terra was king, and sora was just a boy before some great war to take over the kingdom. So now, Terra sends Sora and his mother away to a resort island where nothing bad happens, well had happened before. then if Terra Died in the war, and sora was next in line, the keyblade would choose him.
The necklace is the most important item of Soras? Know why, look at his wardrobe from kingdom hearts one, he has two accecories, the Chain on his belt, and the Necklace. When he gets his new cloths, everytihng but that necklace changes. Also, when he Dirves(valor, Wisom, master, Final.) its still ther, it never changes. Ever. Its allways the same.
No actually it was a mistake by me by putting a capital o in the oblivion. So thats my mistake and sorry for misledding you.
And yes the kingdom key has Mickeys head as the keychain. Now I just come up with something. In te first secret video (sunset horizon) Terra is standing on Xemnas dragon that you defeated in KH2. Is that something that shows it be after the KH2? Cuz theyre prbly only one kind of that dragon. Or not would like an opinion
When Sora got his keyblade he actually was the second one on line. At least I think it was so. Riku was the first choise to wield the keyblade but after he went over to the dark side the keyblade went to Sora instead. And the knights name are refering to Sora, Riku and Kairi and Terra and Riku had names refered to each other. But we dont know yet so we could both be wrong.
Also anyone that has something to write about that the three knights not being the heroes. Would really like your opinion
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That dragon is also like a castle, so t might just be a machine, so it might have been fixed after the first time it was destroyed, but now your looking directly into the specifics of every little thing that is shown. The problem is your either dead wrong, or right on the money, any theory we come up with can be good or bad, so you could be complelty right eagl
do you think roxas will have any role or connection in this next game?
Geez, i wish Nomura wasn’t so secretive….
i was thinking and i thought, since Org XIII are all nobodies, where are ther heartless forms?
its unsead, we dont even know wo they are, what they look like, what form they have, for all we know wecould have killed them all already without know it was them.
Well Nomura really wants to make a game or a part of it with Roxas as main characther. So we could expect in a future game we will see Roxas time from his bearth to his dead. But I dont have any idea if he will be or not.
And according to the org XIII heartless Ãt was only Ansem that got a human shaped heartless.
Also how many nobodies had a real body like the org. So that could mean there are more people that shares Xemnas goal.
Just found the translation to trailer that was shown at the SE party.
Square Enix Party Trailer Translations:
-Dialouge/Words:
Their wounds cannot be healed. [I have to go heal their wounds]…
If you get lost in the darkness, join your hands together like before!
I am counting the days since my birth.
Has the number of days been recorded?
I do not want to forget what has happened since my birth.
With whose heart does the next story lay?
-Sora, Roxas, and The Enigmatic Soldier/Terra, appear in the background.
-Scenes from the Final Mix secret movie Birth By Sleep appear with a remix of “The Other Promise” (Song) playing in the background.
The pendant on Sora’s necklace… hmmm… I don’t think it will mean anything, at least not for a long while. I have a feeling we’ll just see that symbol for an age, until probably the last game or something where like some backstory might be revealed (like he got the necklace from a relative or something).
Kinda like in MGS3 where Snake’s bandanna was a trademark through the series since ’87, but it wasn’t until in 2004 that we got to find out where it came from in MGS3.
it is starting to become a factor though…the crown. In final mix, you get certain crowns for defeating the 13 mushrooms, so it may have a significance, but none that i think will play a major plot point
I agree with oblivion. its too untouched, and almost god like to be unusefull
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what do the crowns do if sora obtains one? will it affect his stats, or is it just an easter egg in the game?
hasnt been said what exactly they do, if at all
It is status effecting, what it does we do not know.
Has anyone noticed what kind of necklace Roxas is wearing? It lokks like the nobody insignia but I don’t think it is. Wonder how Roxas got his necklace? Does anyone think that the Organization had another goal? Honestly, I think that we’ll probably come across them again. Ansem’s apprentices must know something about Aqua, Ven, and Terra.
It does look a lot like the nobodies symbol, instead that one end, has almost like a heart shape. And, fitting enough, when you beat Roxas in the final mix, you get that chain and you get that new keyblade seen on page 2 here. And ive always thought that golden, like, if they can remember what it was like to have hearts, does that mean they can remember their original lives as well? I think they tried to become whole again, so they can do whatever upon whom made them his way,
Who knows. Maybe that’s why they wanted to control Kingdom Hearts; to get revenge on those who made them that way. That could have been the Organization’s other goal. Secretly, I think Xemnas was trying to find the Room of Awakening while he was collecting hearts for KH. If their plan had succeeded, wouldn’t all of the worlds be destroyed? There’s this feeling I have that’s telling me Xenort is still alive somewhere somehow. After all, he’s the source of all the problems caused in both KH games.
This filler game that suppose to come out handheld might end the trifecta, kh1 was his heartless, 2 was his nobody, maybe its gonna be his original self somehow
i now know for a fact who one of th charecters are from the kh2 secret clip. the one in th middle the one with th odd keyblde and ponty ears is……………………………………………………… SORA. i found out based on a pic on thi website
which one? i wanna see.
i know this has nothing to do with the conversation but when do you learn the glide ablility in kh2?
Okay, i know exactly which pic you are talking about king, the thing is, your wrong. Firstly, Nomura said that those soldiers, are not sora riku and kairi, many many times. Secondly, that pic is an earlier rendering, concept art, so sadly it isnt.
And es, sora learns the glide ability wonce you get his final form, which happens after the roxas battle, but happens randomly when you go into your drive form. However, you can only glide when in that form, untill you level up final form twice from when you got it, then you can give the regular sora the glide ability
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Its not sora, as oblivion said, its already been stated as false. So no…
i thought the same thing until he confirmed otherwise
Agreed, i thought it was either him or roxas
i think its soras Kid, and terra is Rikus kid, and Aqua is some chick who is just randomly there, maybe Tifa and clouds kid. thehe
But sora will be appearing in the game won’t he, so i don’t think theyre related in any way. But they night have a connection, as Nomura stated.
It depends, the filler game or the main game? He might appear in the filler game, maybe not as the main character, but i think hell be there. THe main game though, i m not too sure about that. I think that game even though the KH title, will be a new part of the series, another chapter in the story
Yeah, i think that sora will only have a minor roll. im really thinking kid, or trainee of sora, and the trainee or kidd will have flashbacks of his and soras training.
I dont think that theyre the kids of Sora and Riku. I think that they ghave some connections with the organization or Ansems apprentices.
it was said i belive that they have connections to the main charecters, so i think that they are if not their children, then there like trainee. Like sora and riku, being guardians of realms as shown in the crossroads, will be training the next guardian for that realm (aqua ven and terra)
If thats the case, then why did no one train sora and riku, or maybe somewone did, and we jsut didnt see it
If I dont remember it wrong Nomura said that Ven had some relationship with Roxas. And it was something with that you needed Roxas story to tell about Xehanorts past. And Roxas story will maybe the next game be about. But I could just mixed up things. If so help me to make it clear.
i really dont think about the word traniee. but more like cousin. also i thnik that there are more than 3 chasers. infact i think that the chasers are going to war(keyblade war) with evil keyblade fighters.
typo on my name. i meant sorafan1 not sore. but it probably wont stay my name if i decide to coment mor.
I know somebody said that roxas was most likely gonna be the target of the next game, im not sure if it was nomura or just rumors. But it makes sense, cause im sure roxas’s story can shed some light on questions that have been brought to the table
It also looks like it could be something about the king
I dont know about roxas, i mean…well no, it would make a good story, and it would be a posotive way to bring back the ORG.
Sora won’t be coming back for a while apparently. Nomura thinks he won’t appear until the end now, when his “final part will be played.”
Sounds epic! :D
The fianl part…sounds like a sacrifice of some sort
Yeah it sounds like something huge will happen to him. But Nomura had the end of KH in his head when he started to devoleped it. But he could have changed his mind.
Im gonna cry if sora dies. Jk, hes already tried to comit suicide once, member in the first on. Jk, i dont know, i dont wanna see sora go, i mean hes the main charecter of the Frikin series. If its another game in that series, why take him away. just someithng new doesnt sell with me.
I want to see something with that he finally set all the world to peace and everything goes kinda back to what it used yo be. Then I want to have a game with something very much like the others but still very new and Sora is the old living legend. Or something like that
O.O okay I just have to say that while I have definitely played KH1 and 2 there seems to be giant leap between the german and other versions. I hope that the new game comes soon as even KH:CoM was here already sold out after a few weeks with no chance of buying one. I love this news site….^^
If when he started making this, and already had the end in mind, i doubt that he would change it, no mnatter how popular it is. he might have nly had 3 games in mind, where the last was soras final part, but since its so popular thats why hes making other parts of the story.
Yes I think that youre right Oblivion. But we dont know if he maybe put in some more stories for an exrta one or two games. Or he maybe only ha three games in mind.
Whether he only had 3 in mind, i dont think he could have ever guess kingdom hearts would be this popular, no one did really, its obvious that he wants a certain story to be told, and when it isdone, the series is as well, which i hope isnt anytime soom
Something tells me that this is going to be similar to what happened with the Final Fantasy series.
even if it did get that popular, which is prertty close, idont think its gonna come out with 13 main games, along with countless subgames. The difference is that all the final fantasy games are not even connected story wise, with the exception of x-2 and dirge. All the games so far for kh, has been connected, so unless nomura releases a game that has no ties at all to sora or any of the other characters, there is only so much he can do
O k I neeeed to know what the names of the people who are the kingdom hearts 2 final mix video are?Who is the tall one who takes off his helmet at the end?I think that I alreadi know the blue haired girl`s name.And who is the one that got frozen`s name? Someone plase tell me!!!
The tall guys name is Terra. The blue-haired girl i called Aqua and the frozen roxas look-a-like is called Ven (or Ventus).
Remember in the ending of the first KH how the door looked like it was destroyed? Then how come in the ending of KH2 it looks like it has been renewed? This is the only world that we are never able to visit every time it is shown.
I think no doubt org you came across something, Destiny islands is a place that has been seen, but since kh1, hasnt been visited really, i mean really cause of com, but it is without doubt that DI,_destiny islands) hold secrets to the worlds that no one may even know about, particualry even mickey
i think one of the things that makes mickey, king mickey, is that he knows more than he lets on. He kinda like knows all sees all. I think that he has some knowledge about destiny islands, but then again i dont. So im not sure which im for yet.
Well,king Mickey does have a tendency to do that kind of thing. I guess I agree with you No. 7. What could mickey know about Destiny Islands anyway?
Yeah Ive also been thinking of this. Mickey knows very much but doesnt show it so much. But what is it that he knows about Destiny Island. Also both Riku and Sora is from DI and they are keybladewielders. Also then Kairi showed up on destiny islands. Of all worlds she ended up on DI. Cold that be a huge coincidence
Its what he could not know about the islands, i think that the serises is gonna end by sealing a keyhole in a world that is like a median world, one that connects pure light to pure dark. And DI might just be that place, and thats what mickey is looking for, but just havent relized it yet
Except for when the heartless attacked that world, nothing interesting has happened there. Is it possible that Mickey might know Terra? That could be why the portal was in Disney Castle.
the final battle with Ansem happened at the islands in kh1, an besides some scenes with Kairi in the second one thats all thats been seen from the islands.
Mickey and Terra, i believe so, i think that the ectra scene with the 3 soldiers and the bald guy, happeend in the past, when mickey went to stop the fight for some reason, he found Terra and brought him back to the castle. That guy came looking for him, so Mickey made a portal and stuck hime in it to protect him
If you’re right, I wonder how they’re connected to each other? Did ever notice how the heartless except for one and the nobodies don’t talk? The only heartless that talks is the one who has the reaction command of Heal Stomp. From both games, which were your two favorite heartless? Mine are te Grim Reaper and the Behemoths.
i dont really think you can call that talking, and unless it was mind reading or something, then the nobody in kh2 who said to roxas, we have come for you my liege, talked.
As for favorites, i think the mini-darksides, the ones you fought with a blue sword, and the other would have to be either one of the elemntals you fought in Agrabah
I dont think hearltess are supposed to talk, there monsters, i dont think it needs to talk, plus there mindless, like master yensid said, nobodies are differant, they can tihnk and plan.
and i tihnk that my 2 favorite were prolly the earthingshaker from the second time in Pride lands, and ummmmmm…the invisibles.( the things oblivion described.)
Invisibles! thank you, i was going crazy trying to think of their names, jeez
What does the keychain on the old man’s keyblade signify? It’s really hard to see… Could the dark soldier be the heartless of that old man?
No, i tihnk that there both human, and that they are relatives in some way. The reason i tihnk that is because when terra holds Venn back, it just makes me think something that. “No hes mine” kinda thing, like there was some big conflict in the past.
Yes Ive been also thinking about that No7. Like the old man , dark soldier and Terra has something related to each other
If thats the case, we need to think about what is the relation, i think it be too obvious for a family issue, and it seems to far out there to be soemthing like, “training partners”.
it better be entertaing than spiderman 3 and 2!!!
what does spiderman have to do with anything?
Agreed, what does it have to do with anything?
In any case if were making connections, look at the secret eneding again and look at mickeys outfit, those clothing has a resemblance to Sora’s outfit that you get at yen sid’s place. A whole nother reason why yen sid plays more of part i believe
Does Mickey’s starseeker keyblade have a keychain? I don’t think it’s possible to tell anyway. Maybe this is what happened while Sora was sleeping?
Bad news people…. jonfromtexas is back again. I thought that this snake was gone for good. How did a wimp like him manage to come back after nearly a month? Golden, I hope you’ve noticed that he’s returned….
Don’t respond to his post at all.
Well, itsn ot gonna help. HEs just gonna get everyone aroused like last time, and were all gonna respond to him anyway. Hes never gonna go away guys. As long as he can come here, and get attention he will allways come back. Even if we dont pay attention, he knows that we at least see it, so he will continue to be annoying until he matures, or finds someone else to pester.
notice he onyl stays in one thread, so it doesnt mater to me what he says anymore, as long as he keeps it there
how does this sound, we were fine with him gone, just not talk about him, and well be fine
Sounds good to me, Oblivion. I’m with you all the way. One last thing, though. To me, it just proves how rediculous some people really are these days. Some don’t change no matter what you may do to them.
Anyways, with the whole thing about the keyblades having or not having keychains is a major part. But there isnt conclusive evidence to say whether or not the star seeker micky has one or not.
As for a time period of that fight scene, i wish Nomura would just tell us when it is, i know he likes to leave us hanging, but come on. If he at least tell us that, then perhapswe can weed out theories
Kingdom Hear 3 is coming out Decmber 15 2007
chasers are just anouther enemy like nobodies or heartlees
The old man in the secret video of kingdom heart final mix 2 is xehnort and the warrior that his eyes to brown is Ansam The Wise grand son
my mistake the guy that changed his eyes to gold is Ansam The Wise from the past
disregard my last entrie
I want to know proof for that. I dont believe anything about the release date.
Yeah, same here. Where’s the evidence? There’s something fishy about that date. From what I’ve heard and read we’re not going to hear anything about the next title unti the TGS.
My uncle works for Square Enix
and as for the title they already have onthe game box there just going to tell people the name
I said it before and ill say it again, coul people please try to at least condense their posts, chris, you made like 10, im looking at it and it could easily be cut down to 3.
And no offense, but i dont believe you chris. That date, its way too close, they havent started making the game yet, how could it be coming out in just 6 months, now, maybe that date has somethng to do wiht the filler game coming out on the ds perhaps, that is more believable, but not the 3rd main game
I was tired of seeing all of the thiorys so i wanted to help you guys out
The game i was talking about is the filer game and it’s for the psp
and the maine game is not that far away if you would notice all the games are already planed out and they didn’t just start making the game they started about a year and a half ago
i am just asking if kingdom heart final mix one and two can be bought in America and if you can were
You werent talking about the filler game chris, you said kingdom hearts 3, and if you claim that your uncle works for square, you would know that its not even being call kh3, we all knew that.
And they may already have it planned out for the most part, cause that takes jsut as long as making the game. If you want to get technical, they didnt start programming the game yet.
Oblivion , do you know when the exact date of TGS is
september 20th to the 23rd
in kingdom hearts two in twilight town in the basment of the mansion were sora woke up the is a pod that says it has been used before i think that xehanort might have used it and that is what they refer to as memory of xehanort
I know what you’re talking aboot, but how does it relate to his memories?
You see, that must be one of the rooms, the room of sleep or the room of awakening, i have a theory about that but im not gonna disclose it yet cause it is so far out there that even i dont believe it yet. But i dont think xehanort used that, unless It was ansem who used that contraption to return Xehanort back to the way he was, cause i think the secret ending came before kh, and ansem fond Xehanort, and took him in
i think organazation 13 used it to restore xehanort memorys from something that had happen before which makes me think the secret video from kingdom heart final mix two is from the past. also Nomura sasy that Xibar saw the three wariors from the secret video when he was an aprentice of Ansam The Wise
Then his profound statement about how the keyblade chose a dud, meaning Sora makes sense. There’s an old saying that I’ve always told people. Never judge a book by its cover. This alone could be another way of viewing Org. XIII.
and i think sora is going to be the maine character in the next game because in the end of kigdom hearts 2 sora kiari and riku riceve a letter from the king and also if they werent the maine characters there would be no sence of them geting the letter
Sora’s part isnt over yet, and if it is, it is a little too early, but as far as him being the main character of the next game, thats still up for grabs. You know what im trying to say? maybe the next main game to come out, would be another part of the story, and in a future game, sora would be the main character agian, and pick up after the events of kh2
Oblivion, you should read the Ansam Reports inKingdom Hearts 2 they give allot of info about Xehanorts memorys and about Ansam The Wise other assistants that i had never heard of tell me if know them there names are ; Even,Ienzo, Bleig, Dillin, and Eleus
i read them, but now that i completed the game multiple times, i should read them again, i think i would understand a bit more, ill read them when i get them all, im replaying kh2 for th 6th time, im playing a normla and is now trying to get 100% in everything in the game, thanks though sora
your welcom. there was something in the first Ansam report that said Xehanort might being super Human
Oblivion can you explain to me way do you kill Axel twice once when your sora and then when he kills himself helping sora
One, you never fight axel when your sora, only side by side. The scene you must be talking about is the one where you fought him as roxas just beofre you got to be sora.(unless your refering to CoM???)
As far as killing axel, he doesnt seem to die, i dont thin there is something there, but could be
when your fighting side by side he uses all of his strength in one blast and then you see his body disaparing. that is when he dies the second time.
thats when he puts his all into the attack, and thats when he dies, not for the second time, he dies
the first time he dies is when your roxas in the begining
the first time you kill Axel is in the begining of the game when your Roxas
The thing about Xehanort being superhuman is that he had some extraordinary talents and he learned everything extremly fast from Ansem the wise. also that Xehanort had some too extraordinary talents
And accrding to KH network there will not be any games for Wii PSP and Xbox
http://www.kh-2.net/?nav=48557
i think Xehanort might be from aouther planet maybe it is the planet you see in the Kingdom Heart Final Mix 2 secret ending. Eagl
You might be onto something, but I’m not too sure though…
I wish Kingdom Heart Final Mix one and two were sold in America not just in Japan
As for Axel, you beat him as roxas, you dont kill him, look at the way he disapears then, and when he dies along side sora.
When you think about, everyone has extradinary talents, sora having the power to fuse with donald and goofy in drive forms? I dont know what you would call that but i call it incredible.
And when you think about, everyone is from another planet.
i think the filler game is going to be what happen whil sora was sleeping. something had to have happen while he was sleeping for a year. And maybe it’s about what had happen to Roxas in the year Sora was sleeping.
Well it depends on what story Nomura want to tell. Nomura want to tell about Mickeys time in the darkness, Rikus time in the darkness , Xehanorts memories and Roxas time from birth to whne he met sora. My guess is that it will be one of the last two
It might not even be one of them, he might combine two or more of the stories that he wants to tell into one game, like what he did with CoM, and you ebing able to play through both sora’s and riku’s part of that story
it might be about both micky and riku’s time in the relm of darknes. like in chain of memory when your both sora and riku
if you have read the Ansam Reports it said that Roxas was not born a regular nobodie can someone explain
roxas isnt normal nobody cuz of soras short time as a heartless. so he doesnt remember much of sora
dose roxas have a connection with xzhanort. And if he dose what
Roxas might just be a link to finding Xenort’s lost memories. Although, I’m not really too sure about that either….
He was born special cause normally the nobodies original form doesnt tranform back after it becomes a heartless.
As for a connection, who knows, the connection might be through kairi, cause i believe that kairi was still at the hollow bastion castle when xehanort was there
Wasnt it Xehanorts heartless that sent Kairi away? Also if I remeber it right you need one of the srories to tell about Xehanorts memories. I believe it was Roxas but I will check it up
http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/page/2/
Check it out. There can be things that can be clearer
the 3rd knights name isnt probably terra but something using the word. maybe terren
That is probably true, and ideas or thought on why though?
well kairis name is ocean. but the real japanese word for it is liek kahij or something. same for namanie. japanese word is nami
i also have a question. is the room of awakeing a room reveled in fm+ or in com?
also what is it!?!?!
First off, terra, is latin, their names are derived from latin terms, not japanese.
Its a room where memories are reborn and gathered like the place that sora was in, and if im not mistaken, we havent actually seen the room yet, just heard of it
well i read a few things you guys sed and i hav answers 2 a few like in the ansem reports if you swith around the names and add an x u get the name of one of the organization or any nobody this works for sora to bcuz sora switched around with an x is roxas and xemnAS IS ANSEM WITH AN X also hav you ever tryed to match soras pendant with the end of his keyblade they practiclly fit perfectly
wow graham, we didnt see that at all, its not like if you actually looked in the other posts, you wouldnt see this exact conversation and how we already know that and had this talk before and how Ienzo is zexion, eualus is lexeaus, brian is xigbar, and others like that
plus in the ansem reports in kh2 they mention some kind of extremely srtong monster something like a hearless that can b controlled i dont really remeber i will have to look at it again but I think those oculd be the chasers
and i think its really stupid how they changed soul eater (riku’s sword in the kh1 and com) to a key blade because soul eater was such a COOL weapon and they made a weird looking keyblade
the soul eater was a keyblade anyway, andit changed cause it was valuable to the story
i didnt know it was a keyblade i judt thought it was like a sword that he got malificent and if it was already a keyblade why would ansem give riku that really strong keyblade that he uses in the 2nd battle
Are you talking about the black keyblade? that a special one that is different, it doesnt unlock/lock doors, it unlcoks peoples hearts
yeah but pretty much all the keyblades have athing at the end like road to the dawn has a wing at the end but soul eater doesn’t thats why i dont think its a keyblade
ive lokked in practicly every post and ive never seen anyone mention how in kingdom herts 2 final mix you battle one of the knights from the special cutscene i think its ventus the one who gets frozen bcuz i watched a video and i clearly saw him that sora was battling
Well graham, there are other pages on this site, and there is about 4 threads to that very fight, why dont you look around a bit
my point is that the names arnt exacly what the word is. there changed a little
Yeah i know, like Ven’s full name is Ventus, but the point that i seemed to be getting from you was not that exact word, but the japanese version, just confused me a little thats all
lol sry bout that
Yeah, dont worry about it, it confused me as well to why they used that latin names for sky and water, and not the japanese versions. Then it hit me, that its also an american and europe game as well
They already used the Japanese words for Sky, Water and Earth.
Sora, Kairi and Riku.
The latin names of the new characters is to draw parallels between the two sets of characters.
well, i knew that, i meant the full names, cause i highly doubt that sora riku and kairi are the full names for sky water and earth
wjitch was my original point
terra might be terren or terrian
idk
well i went on vacation and now im back to comment but i see that i kinda got replaced, id doubt if anyone remembers who i am. IM so lost, but id like to get back, so anyone, is there any confirmed date or names on any of the new games?
How can anyone forget you luna, but no, nothing new yet, isnt E3 over? so that means square already had their press conference…golden,. whats the news?
Last I heard Nomura was supposed to talk about the next KH game a little bit more.
ok, so i was looking around the internet today, and i dont remember where(some random google link) but it had release dates for the upcoming kingdom hearts games, the handheld one was released mid december this year, and the platform(kh3) was said to be november next year. As for my personal opinions i think its a load of crap, too close for no information on it. But i just thought id share anyway.
ud be surprised, im almost posotive prolly you and golden maybe orginization are the only ones who remember me. Regardless, IM BACK!
I think everybody knows you’re back now Luna. You’re right; it does seem way too soon to have any release dates for either game. Not much has been said about them anyway as of yet. THe TGS should fill in some of those gaps. Well , we know the next game is going to be similar to Com. Those events would probably lead up to the KH game. Keyblade War possibly?
The handheld sounds close, maybe a little too close, the idea that that game is going to come out before 2007 is over is a little odd, but its more believable then the next main game coming out next year
well, i think that it all depends on the info released. We have all been kept in the dark because no infos released, they could be done, or 2 years away, we dont know. I hope that the next game is december early january, and the next platform game isnt till 2009. But thats just personal opinion.
i hope it comes out sooon 2
but too keep me busy im doing things in both kh games
in kh1 im maxing out to lvl 99, gonna beat the gold and platiuam cups, and ima beat all the optional bosses
in kh2 i already maxed out to lvl 99 so ima max out my forms and beat it on hard mode( i already beat speppy too, maybe ill do that again)
so im pretty busy but still i dont think i can wait till 2009 without a filler game in between
what do you do when youve beaten all of that though? i mean after that, all there is to do is do it again(not complaining) so i need to come up with new things to do. thats why i wanted final mix, so that i had more to do when im waiting. i guess ill just start over.
It’s probably obvious, but here’s a good challenge. Instead of following through with the game, go to the strongest worlds first in proud mode. It makes Twilight Thorn one hell of a fight if you’re not careful.
Well, you could do what im doing, and complete jiminy’s journal in kh2, and get mickey as a summon
i thought that was just a myth, i didint know you could actually do it, Have you seen proof of it?
Thats what im working on right now, i dont know if its a myth or not. But alot of people have been saying stuff like that, but whether it exists or not, im gonna find out. Cause not only do youhaveto complete every minigame, but also get at least 30 of every sysnthsis material, which will take a while, excluding the crystals. So i dont think alot, if any has done it, but im setting out do to it, and record it as well.
lemme know how that turns out, because personally i would hate to do all that work to have it be false, and be like F**K man, what the H**L is this. and be totaly dissapointed.
Yeah, i complety agree, i dont think i would ever turn on KH2 again if that happened, but think about it, that is one of the requirements in normal mode to get the secret ending along with locking all the worlds, while in proud you can get the ending with just locking all the worlds. Even though it was proud, i found that to be a lot easier. So it would make sense to me to have something special unlocked if you complete all of jiminy’s journal. If not…i am going to be very angry
wow mickey as a summon
i nver heard of that 1
but i kinda also want fm cuz most secret ending videos(although yesterday i found a good one but still not perfect) are blurry and dark so u hear stuff going on but u cant see whats happening
but luna i said i was gona beat all the optional bosses in kh
do u know how hard thats gonna be
theres seppie ice giant
and dont even make me tell u about phantom
ill also try to get deep drive(but i forgot how to get it)
Something tells me that having Mickey as a summon is completely false. You could probably get 1000 of item and it still wouldn’t work.
Every site where it has cheats or tips on the game, has have that part of their little shindig. So either it is true, or its all one giant hoax, but if it is somethign that hard to get, i have to try to see for myself.
The secret ending in the first one is a little tricky, you need to get all the trinity points, all the dalmations, lock all the worlds, get the hades cup, and something else i believe…
And sora, i beet al lthe secret bosses, the clock phantom, both titans, sephiroth, and arza, the one in agrabah.
Sora fan, you forgot one, thers also kurt zista in agrabah but hes a p***y and there all easy, im serious ive beaten them many a time. The phantom is easy to, sephie is the hardest, but let me know if you need help, ive dont it so much, im a pro. Jk, but ill help and give you tips if you need it,
kurt zista, thats the name, thought it was somethign different, i actually found him and sephiroth to be the hardest. But after i found out hist tricks and how to beat them, i won within 5 minutes
Sephiroth wasn’t even a challenge in KH2. Those reaction commands made him as easy as hell. Don’t how I did it but I was able to defeat him the first time around in my early 60′s level range.
We were actually talking about sephiroth in the first game. And there want much for reaction commands besides block, so i dont know what your talking about. Once you fought him once, and survived a while, you know his movements, so i was able to knock down about5 life bars before he changed his strategy, and before i lsot any health
i knew about kurt
but hes easy
also guys
tell me what chaecter u would like to see in the next mains games opeaning(with the realy kwel graphics)
and also what scene
i would like to see xigbar because hes my fav org mem
and the scene i wanna see would be when sora karii and ansem hold hands to find out that its not ansem but riku
well, why would it be the riku ansem, because riku got form back, it would be regression, so im pretty sure you wont see that. But i definetly would want to see something more of the ORG. like and afterlife for strong hearted nobodies, like they become something else and we get to see them again, they were to cool to go away like that. so i would say siax, and a scene, i would love to see everyone(sora, riku, the king, donald, goofy, leon, cloud, sephy, tifa, yuffie, and any other main charecters im forgetting) all training in (the dark depths i think its called)in hollow bastion, gettig stronger off each other. i think it would be major cool, and they could do alot.
Look at the opening to KH2, it was basically scenes from kh and CoM, so that was regression…
Thats the problem, they cant put many new scenes in an opening cause the player might see that and be like, wait a minute, what the…? kind of thing
I wish to pose another question, i was playing kh2 again cause im trying to figure out if a certain something is a myth or not, and i came across a few things in the game that pissed me off.
So i got to thinking, what parts of the game, whether story or just fighting aspects, whatever, pissed you off the most?
Mine would have to be easy, and the one that almost gave me an aneorism trying to understand it. Go to the ballroom in Beast’s castle, the outer gates, the palace in Mulan’s world,there are more…but ill stop there. You try to open the door…and it says its locked…
Um, how can it be locked, im the freaking keyblade weilder!!! The keyblade can unlock anydoor, any lock, and yet it cant open a gate…If nomura didnt want to go into these areas, he shouldve put a little more thought into it
lol
yea
1 thing that makes me mad is that donald always say whats obvious
its like we already know that donald!!
and somtimes there so stupid
its like herc says theres this guy n a balck rbe… do u know him
and soras like “i think so” i mean how many ppl in black robes do u know sora!?!?!
its sad when i think, no, i know that goofy is the smartest out of all of them
i know he is
lol
What pissed me off was the magic. They only added two more spells! Two!! I was expecting to at least use some water and earth magic. You would think that Goofy would be the dumbest one, but he’s not. They’re a replica of the Three Stooges. I was also pissed that we couldn’t explore the other floors of Disney Castle.
So uh luna…you were right, it is no longer a myth. its plain fact. You cannot complete the journl 100% and be able to summon mickey, the source where i found it, turns out he was talking about the final mix…i hate him…but guess what, i got 100% haha
lol, well good job man. Congrats. and about the goffy thing… lol funny. so i think the thing that pissed mee of most is mickey. I mean hes the effing king, and we get to see him fight what a whole 4 times, and its nothing. I mean, i think sora could own him in a minute, so why isnt sora the freaking king, I think they should have made mickey more powerfull, like some explosion magic that blows all up or something. Plus i think that when he and mickey are together that they should have some super awesome thing. Like the power of love kinda thing. also another thing is sora and kairi. I meant get on with it, we know he likes her, and vice versa, he knows he likes her and she likes him, and she knows she likes him and he likes her, so just get it going already. I mean a hug, i was like after all that we get a freakin hug. man, so stupid.
Other than dying and having him come and “fight” for you, and im using that term loosely, Mickey to me recolection, has only fought beside sora only once to my knowledge. And that was when they went to go find the alternate Twilight Town, and he showed up. But agreed, they shouldve done more, like put it a reaction command with him or something.
That reminds me of another thing that po’d me a little, if you get to do limits with goofy, donald, riku, and the other special characters in each world that you get, why cant you also do drives with them? Cause Valor and Wisdom were the only ones were you have to have goofy and donald out, respectivly, to take those forms, but i though it be cool if you could drive from with Auron, that be the ultimate character ever
lol, agreed, also on that, you can do final and master form with any 2 party memebers so why not have a seperate form for each one. i think Jack and Sora would be sweet. The ultimate nightmare.
and weve seen him fight when you first get to twilight town, then in twtnw, and then in hollow bastion. True hes only fight beside sora once, but weve seen him battle more than taht. And theres nothing, so super sweet comand no nothing. Pisses me off.
But like you said luna, it isnt anything special
yeah, its really not, its just him swinging away like we do all the time. its nothing. and when we fight as him, all we can do is some stupid pearl magic that shoots away a ball of light. even when hes pissed about goofys “death” he cant do anything great. anyway, that and the sora kairi thing really annoy me.
hehheh
have u guys read the interview at kh insider
its kinda brief but its definatly not gonnna have sora in it
he said maybe riku as the main charecter or roxas
so u should read it for a little more info
and oblivion… u completed the journal that fast!!!???!?!?
i read it, tahts where i got the info that i posted in the other comments. its not impossible. Im proud of him, good job oblivion.
Even though it wasn’t required, I was able to complete 100% of the journal in proud mode with luck. That Hades Paradox Cup always gives me trouble no mater what I do. It’s too bad that you can’t go aboe 99. Why his level limit lowered to 99? Not that it matters but I’m just curious.
It was only on normal mode, if im that bored, ill try proud mode. The only thing that was an actual challenge to me, was completing 3 of the mini-games, as well as winning and getting the points in some of the tournaments.
And i agree with you org, that hades in proud, even though i was at 99, i couldnt get past the 44th round, so i applaude you. And even though you cant get above level 99 in KH2, you can still raise his stats, like defense and strength using the boosts.
I think ive seen one game where its characters went above a lvl 99, and that was star ocean, and they put it to i believe 255, but i dont understand it much either
The only way to beat that cup is like you said, by raising his stats. Isn’t the 44th round with Leon and the others all at once? The best way to take them out is with one ability: Trinity Limit. When you’re mp is carging just fly around the arena and continue the same strategy until all of them fall.
its the semi finals, 49 where you fight all of them. And i really dont remember which one that was, it either had the jack in the boxes or the car heartless, cause if you cant beat them in like two shots, they become invincible after a while. And exactly, my stats were way too low, specially my defense to withstand the attack power they were dishing to me.
But i was upset, i thought the final fantasy match was gonna be hard, i beat them no problem. The match were i fought basically every main heartless in the game, now that was hard, i kept wondering when the hell is this match gonna end
how do u get that cup
i have both the pap cup and the titan cup paradox
i want that hades paradox cuz my stsats are pretty high im lvl 99 and i have everysingal keybalde in the game(well my friend got them… but got fenriri :)
cuz i copied my friends lvl 70 somtin acc with like 70 stats and ultimia and fatel crest
i lved it up to 91 and beat seppy soooooooooooooooooooooooo easyly
soooososososo very easy
oops i meant i have the pain and panic paradox and the titan paradox
I don’t know if you noticed but every heartless and nobody has the same exact stats only in the Hades Paradox Cup. That’s why I used Trinity Limit constantly. Couldn’t you also cast reflect so that more damage could be done to them more easily?
u didnt answear my question!!!!!!!lol
i think you get it by having drives and summons all to level 7, and be lv 99. Then i think you get it, plus i think you hve to have beaten atlantica and 100 acre wood.
my stratagie for the ff match(fighing them all together) was easy, i simply ran around, and whoever got to me first i attacked without remorse, then did it again. but then i was like thats a weak way to fight, so i just kinda ran into the mayhe, and closed my eyes until it was over. teheh
yay
my final is at lvl 7(i think)
froms at 5
i will work to get it!!!!!!!!!!!
i sooo wanna fight them all cuz then ill have a challedge that i can play over(cuz speppy u cant do over)
oops
nvm there all at 5 my forms and summon(cept for master its at 4!)
im not too worried bout getting them to lvl 7 (was doing that anyways) except for master
that form is sooo hard too lvl up
Who knows, i guess i was just soo used to fighting side by side, and goofy and donal taking most of the hits, i ddint notice how strong some were.
But i never really use magic, im a warrior. The only spells i used was fire, cause it was all spinny and it worked wonders when i got surrounded. And probably the best combo ever, the magnet spell followed by the thunder spell. At the -ga levels with theunder boost on, unless there immune to thunder, they are done
I know you’re not a magic user but try using reflect next time. It saved me a lot of trouble.
i think if im bored ill replay the game, next time either dedicating myself to magic, or using only the kingdom key
lol i used the kingdom key the first time i beat it(it was east mode though)
and ever scince that fm secret vid iv been using some stuff when working on my hard mode profile
i use star seeker
i started using reflet and noticed that it WAS a good spell
lol
but i want a question answeared
what happenes when u beat the game on hard mode
like does it rediret u to the main menue where that new option is
or do u not have to do the final battle just up to the door
this is basicly the only reason i started getting it(cuz the first vid is lame and short and ive watched it a million times on you tube)
lol i just did final battle again and as i type this the ending rolling
:)
ok, sorafan, i have some tips on where to level up forms that will make it go SOOOOO much faster.
Valor: go to the land of dragons, start in the throne room, drive, and then just run through the level back to the encampment, once there, make sure your still in valor form and use the save to warp out of the land. then reenter in the throne room. you will have fill drive gauge, and be able to do it again.
Wisdom: go to TWTNW and start at the brink of despair. go to memory skyscraper, and transform, then use magnega on the shadows, then go back to the brink of despair while still in wisdom, exit renter and start again.
Master: go back to the land of dragons, and go into the throne room again. Go just outside into the hall, and kill the big fat horse looking hearless, they drop big dive balls, and it works in no time, renter the throne room, and exit, then enter.
Final: go to the top of yen sidds tower. enter the hall, morph, and move down while casting only the fire spell over and over again, move all the way down the tower, and exit at the botom to start again.
personally, im a warrior like oblivion, the only spell i use is reflect, and some call it cheep, but i also never use cure, hardly ever, so its my potion and cure instead.
i forgot summon.
Summon: go to olympus colloseum. and summon peter pan, enter blue door, and use his limit until the summon runs out. Do it again, then enter the tournamant in the enterance that uses summons, Notice after entering your drive gauge is filled, exit the tournament, and its still filled. resummon peter pan, and repeat the process. to do them all, it shouldent take you more than an hour. To get all of them from levels 3 to levels 7 it took me about 45 min.
For wisdom, I prefer Disney Castle. Why? Because the heartless are weaker there. Besides, those car heartless give you drive orbs. Also for final you could easily go to TWTNW and defeat a lot of nobodies in one shot. It’s the place that comes right after the hall of empty melodies. Thundaga works wonders on those white dusks quite well.
Sorry, I meant creepers not dusks.
yeah the way i lvl up final is start at yin sid tower go donw and into the train. then go to the mansion and go to the computer room
work my way throgh twtnw all the way to the door(of corse ill need drive boosts but u get the point) then i just go bacwords down twtnw to the reall twilight town through the mansion to yid sids cstle all the way up to his office
that how i got to lvl 99 as well
but thanks for the tips luna ill use them right away!
ok im super confused about somtin
in the secret ending for kh1 it was for kh2 right
well com took place exactly after kh1
now in kh2 the secret ending is not for the filler game?
but for the next main game right?
well at the end of kh2 theres that clip of them all reading the letter
well if the filelr game doenst take place right after kh2 and doenst include the knights
then what is it!?!?
the only logical explanation is that the letter says
a: tell about the past like with the knights but that wouldnt explain t sora is confused and karii is worried
or b:it tells about castle ablivion because the knig and riku never really forgot about that
so thats y rku is smiling sora is confues cuz he doesnt remember but theres still y karii is worried
plz help me out here guys(sorry this is so long)
The secret ending for kh1 took place during soras sleep, which happened afer Com.
And the ending for kh2, we all assume that its for the next main game, just because that is alot of new characters and story plot to be fitting into a filler.
ok, so you kinda confused me, but ill attempt to answer anyway to the best of my abbilities.
so, were not entirely sure if the ending of KH2(the nights) is the filler game or not, but we think not. we think its for the next platform game.
so far, the filler is rumored to be about riku, and or roxas and or mickey and there time where we dont see them, their time “away”
so, if the letter tells about the past, then kairi might be worried because the letter might inclue that it could repeat, and sora might be confsed because the king is telling him he needs to stop it.
or b- i dont think riku was smiling, i think it was just a misconception. and sora might be confused thinking he destroyed oblivion, and kairi because she knows sora and riku have to leave her again.
but i dunno, just my thoughts. accept i know the filler game is not supposed (as far as i know) to be about the nights.
but there was a recent intereveiw where the creator(dont nkow hot to spell name :} ) said he was thinking about putting a scene where they all head of for a journy
with that said if he wanted to put it in he had a plot for it… right
and filler games take place(or should take place) after the previos main game
but……… soras not gonna be it the next game
and if out patteren is right the knights wont be in the filler game but in the next main game(or in a small picture at the end like in com)
yeah i wish the creator(normera lol cant spell it) wasnt so secritive
because trying to put 2 and 2 together drives me MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well, ive never heard of anything about this journey. My guess based off of what youve heard is that this journey will not be played, but will happen the same time as either the nights or in the filler game. What i mean is, (using not the filler game but the next platform game as an example) this journey will be kinda like a flashback told in cutscenes while the real story that you play, (the nights) will happen. Or it may happen as we go along as flashbacks or something for the filler game.
the interveiw is on kh insider
he said he coudnt decide if he wanted to do the scene or not(obviosly he didnt) meaning he had a plot set out(cuz u dont just put a scene of them going out if u dont kow where there going
also i noticed somtin
when u beat xemnes he says “cursed keyyblade” he curses the keyblade
but to me this could mean he dealt with the keyblades before and they gave him trouble or somtin
this would be a shot in the dark if xigbar hadnt of said “your not half the hero the OTHERS were”
could this mean the org had delt with keyblade holders before
maybe xemnes means roxas becuz he ended up betrying him and sora defeted him
or they mean the knights
ill do some more research for clues
Well yeah, we already decided that the org has delt with weilders in the past. But he was saying cursed keyblade because he was trying to curse it. He said it because it beat him. It was his way of inulting the keyblade. its like saying darn keyblade. and if you seen the new video in final mix of xemnas going down into the castle and hes with the knights and he says hello old friend. thats conclusive evidence saying hes delt with them before. so go figure.
yes i know that
but i wanna see like
geez u ruined my fun!!! >:{
Until more new info comes out, I think we’ve done all the speculating that we can. But I’m curious as to what was on that cd Xemnas launched into the computer.
what cd?
xemas?
omgosh
xemas is real/
That was probably the program luancher to access the code to see his friend, without it, it cant be accessed
I personally think that one of the knights known as the friend could possibly be Xenort.
Its possible, but the armour type and color it seems to be the same that Aqua worn
Do you think that event happened while Sora was sleeping?
I like to base my opinions or theories on facts that are seen and placed in the game. But what event are you talking about? The scene where he goes to see his friend? Its hard to say for sure, actually, that scene was shown before the orgainization members were still alive, like vexen, so it had to be before CoM. so before the sleep
a little while ago i heard this incredable statment
this person did ALOT or reseacrch
ok he compared the secret endings to egypt
terras helm looks like 1 of those hounds or whatever
and hound(forgot the name :{ ) means bravery or VALOR
and terras armour is red
aqua
her helm looked like a owl i think
owl means WISDOM and her armour is blue
i forgot ven but his armour and animal means MASTER
now the bald man had a snake on his weapon
snakes mean sometin and i think it tied to BIRTH BY SLEEP
as you can tell this was amazing for some1 to figure out and i take no credit for it
Well, that makes perfect sense actually. It also makes a very strong point that the secret ending came before KH2 at least. Mickey found those nights,(thats why he showed up at the ending of the vid). He somehow either got a piece of their armour or got their souls or something, and gave them to yensid.
The powers of their armour and souls im guessing drives sora to his different forms, he jsut needs a boost, from goofy or donald. Where did you hear this statement from sora? i think if we did a bit more research, more connections can be found and may answer alot of questions
I’m also curious as well. How can anyone tell the old man’s kechain was a snake?
he watched it soooooooooooooooooooo many times
and he didnt say it was his keychain
he said it was on the keyblade
i think it obvios its i the past
yen sid gives u star seeker
yen sid trained the king
i think yen sid gave the king the keybalde in his trainming then he left and found the gold kingdom key
then yen sid was left with star seeker and later gave it too sora
and oblivion
just tell me what too look for
and i found on the kh insider fourms a little while ago
Well, its not like i can tel you what im looking for, or what anyone else is, cause if thats the case, we can find things and make connections forcefully, rather than it actually being there.
But those valor and wisdom connections were really well found if you ask me
i agree
maybe that means somtin very important
like the knights will be allies and ull be able to drive with them
or that they had some connection with yen sid like maybe the king and the knights trained together
hmmm, thinking about it, we have very little information about yensidd. and he could have this connection that we didnt see. im almost posotive that the king and the knights have something to do with each other. Mickey was placed in that video for a reason.
Did you notice the look on his face? He looked both scared and concerned. I just don’t know why he suddenly appeared at the end of the movie.
Mickey? yeah totally, he looked to me angry, like WTF are they doing to my friends those sons a B*****S. but i dunno, i might be wrong. i dunno, i guess he kinda looked worried.
With the exception of the train and using the portal of darkness to go after Xemnas, how did Mickey travel from world to world? Perhaps it was time travel that he used?
theoritcally, if you can travel through space, time isnt much different. But thats a way of travel that is mysteried, going between the worlds. I hate to say i dont remember which game touched it, but they said a reason fr it, i jsut cant for the llife of me remember
in the first gma eit kinda states that he has his own gummi ship
and if he didnt y would they have a gummi hange in the castle for just 1 ship?
If that’s true, then how come we never saw the king on a gummi ship before? Wonder what it looked like?
sora fan can you try and make sure that you spell things right, nothing personal mate, but its really hard to understand what your saying.
and i dont think he had his own ship, i think because his keyblade was from the realm of darkness he could do like riku did and open portals to transport himself. and oblivion i dont think that it was ever touched upon how he got around, so i wouldent try to hard to remember.
but in kh1 donald said at the deep jungle
look a peice of the knigs gummi
Well, like what beast did at the end of kh, he didnt use a ship, yet he traveled from his world to hollow bastion. I was referring to that kid of movemetn between worlds, and it might have been in an inteview, not the actual game.
And i dont think donald ever said that was the kings gummi, he just said it looked like one, and maybe it was left by the king as a clue. And since we didnt see mickey until the very end, i can only think he used the power of darkness to travel.
agreed. and he didnt say the kings gummi, he said its a piece of a gummi. and yeah beast said he simply believed and he was there, so maybe mickey can do that too. im assume is the power of darkness however.
well yea i quess that is how he travled
but i do remember him saying its a peice of the kings gummi
maybe he used 1 before
like when he and scrodge made that free way or w/e
thats what were talking about, he didnt say its the kings gummi, he just said its a piece of the gummi.
Wait, what freeway? i swear sometimes your responses get weirder and weirder, and no, he never says kings gummi
Actually Oblivion, Scrooge and Mickey were originally going to build a transit system for gummi ships before the heartless arrived.
yep
told ya so
i quess i remembered wrong
lol i nver realy payed attention to the depp jungle place
im with oblivion i dont remember anytihng about a freeway.
You don’t remember the scene in KH2 when you visit Radiant Garden for the first time and you see Scrooge? Goofy says something about a traffic system but Donald corrects him by saying it was a transit system for gummi ships.
i think u have to talk to scroodge to get that info
hmm, my memory must just be a little off. Becuase i remember where and when, just not what they said. but i belive you org, if you say its in there then i trust that its in there.
its familar, definitly, i jsut though that was refering to te time period after kh
wait a second
the king did have a gummi at 1 time
before kh1
cuz in the ansem reports in 1 and 2 it said the king visited them and his ship was made out of the same stuff as the meteor he found elier
aka gummi
and think about this
the king wouldnt build somtin for money like scordge
meaning it had to be important
by 1 and 2 i meant kh1 and kh2
and he wouldnt build the trasit for just money
no, but just because he wants to build a transit doesnt mean he has a gummi, and just because he has one like youve proven, doesnt mean that the piece donald found was the kings.
Exactly!
im not saying its the peice he found
im just saying he did have 1 at 1 point
geez
and im saying maybe he wanted to build a trasit system so the world would saty conected
i dont know, im sure thers some reasoning to it, but we dont at the current time know what that is.
The worlds cant stay connected though, they were and are suppose to seperated/
it was just a thought
i meaan the king isnt one to build somtin to make money
just seems he would do this for a greater purpose
maybe so he can travel to other worlds
yea and maybe he finished a path to radiant garden and visited ansem the wise
and when the heartless invested and it became hallow bastion he destryod the path
again just a thought
No because the worlds have allways meant to be dissconnected. the king wouldent varry that by building and destroying a transit syste. oblivion just told you that.
no not conecting it
building a gumi path
der
dude your stupid. if you build a path to the worlds, there connected somehow, in this case, by path.
If the king can connect thwo worlds, so can the heartless, so why would the king risk giving the heartless a path for his own use?
Lately I’ve been trying to analyze Ansem’s real reports more closely. After reading all of them numerous times, I still have one question. When Sora turned into a heartless, why didn’t he stay as a human? I think I may have discovered something else. Maybe one of you said this already. Did you ever tale a good look at Aqua’s keyblade? I believe that’s the friend Xemnas goes under the research lab to talk to.
i said it was just a thought
i didnt anilaiz eit very far
just somtin that poped into my mind and i did put mush thought into it
i think because he gave up his heart voluntarily, but it doesnt make sense to why xehanort did and not sora, maybe because sora is jsut a kid
yeah, i agree with you sean, i mean soras not too expirienced, hes a kid as you said, and doesnt have much or any experience. plus, we already agreed that the armor tha Xehanort talked to in the new video was aqua, Steven.but it wasnt anyoen in the armor, it was just armor, to what i could see.
well so far ansem(xeonort) is the only person to get a “human” apperance
maybe cuz its the way he xeonort turned into a heartless because if u read the artifiacailly created heratless made by machine had a symbol on them and his heartless had that same symbol
so maybe the artificailly created heartless also made nobodies
and xeonorts heartless was artificailly made
(i wasnt even planing to write this it just came to my while i was typing)
and so maybe the old man or terra in the real xeonort (old man maybe another artificailyl created heartless though cu his and ansems cloths look the same) but terras eyes turned gold as sated many times before so…..
whatta guys think(plz dont yell ay me again ur giving me headaces……..xd)
It could explain why Xehanort got a human looking heartless, cause it wasnt made naturally, but like i said, neither was sora. I guess it all depends on what happens to the person, what kind of heartless comes out, and what kind of nobody is created
but soras heartless wasnt artificailly created
maybe xeonorts was
hey i read this thing on the kh insider fourms and i dont know if u guys know about it but
if u reverse the kh2 opeaning
u geta whole nother story
like litterly
i tells about if sora didnt leave the islands or sometin(i did have my volume up when i heard it so lol)
and at the very end this guy says it says very clearly(it wasnt in the video i dont think)
naminie, sorry
and he said it was just amazing
so whatta guys think u think ita a coincidence or put there on surpose by se
ill try to get a link
oops i meant i didnt have my volume up(i hate that u cant edit ur posts)
yeah, hate to say it, but i dont believe ya, did you hear the audio yourself? cause i cant get anything to play backwards for me
ill check it out right after this. But i think that you get a human nobody based of how you were made into a heartless. think about it, roxas came to be when sora gave his heart up willingly for kairi. And the ORG. got their nobodys when Xehanort started his research with that machine. They all willingly gave themselves as well, i think thats how you get a human nobody, and i tink it has something to do with haveing a strong heart.
ill get a link for u
and no i said i didnt hear ir but other ppl did and they siad it was a bit fuzzy sometimes but other that that it was fine
yeah, i dont care what anyone says, ill have to hear it for myself, i dont care if you say that mickey is the cause of the heartless, i need proof
i doubt very strongly that mickey is the cause of the heartless. im like 99% against that.
forget the video thing
this dude made a theroy and it is very good
read all of it as u wil change your mind on some things(like soul eater changing into way to dawn)
http://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-ii-final-mix/89541-thoughts-about-kk-terra-riku-bbs-among-other-things.html
There all good theories, im not gonna deny that, just some things doesnt sit right with me and what he thinks, like i can relate, but im not sure if hes trying to find clues in what hes seeing
hey those of u that own fm could u tell us all the extra info that was relesed
because i just found out that it tells u xigbar new the knights and sora rememebred castle oblivion during the last battle
OMG DUDE!, go to frikin you tube, or go back to the posts on this website before you ask us what their about! there all over the place so find out for yourself!
ok, so i just read the theory and it was really good until he started getting to where he was talking about the legend of the keyblade and he said it might not be 100% true beuase its a legend. That was bull, he was shooting in the dark looking for anytihng to complete his theory. Just because its a legend doesnt mean that its not true. and he kinda exploted that to its fullest.
you tube has no good quailty and its all in japaneese
trust me i have gone to you tube
so ur yelling was pointless
i have tried to get some in english and the se in good quiality
but no luck
so now im asking u guys
then go the place where everyone goes to see these new videos, even you been there already, khvids, its all there, every single video, if its not in english audio, its at least subbed, and none of us own it yet, im sure of it, go to where we all go, again, khvids, or like 7 said, see past post and pages of the site
finally!
i fianlly found a vid on yt where i can slight understand whats going on in the middle
thanks obilvion ill go to kh vids
OMG, how can you not figure that out yourself. So you go to youtube and theres nothing and you just give up and think were gonna tell you, take some innitiative and look elsewhere, if you go to google and type in final mix plus videos you get everytihng and their dog there waiting for you its not that hard to figure out.
i went to khvids and it was the same
i havnt gone to other web sites cuz i dont know they exist
i first saw it at kh extrusion but there redoing their site
kh insider doesnt have it
this place used to have it but i cant find it anymore
and all the great quiality ones you have to download
id rather have ppl tell me than watch the vids because the ones that have subs are bad quality and the good quality ones are in japaneese
before you guys start yelling at me get all your facts
so far uve yelled at me to do somtin and ive already done it twice
accually now that i think about it i have searched for it but its always crap unless u download it
why r u all havin a go at at people who r sayin they’ve found the website or can’t find anything at all. i find that pointless, and the theroys r good, even though all the facts may not be true, but thats why its called a THEROY!
ive been on kh insider forever trying to fid this out
sry if its stupid but it must be asked
to get the se in kh2(normal) do u have to beat all the world including poo atlancita and tron or just beat the game(sry its kinda stupid)
and this is on proud mode
well it depends. if you on proud mode than lock every world including pooh, tron and atlantic. If your on normal mode, than do that, and clomplete jimnys journal 100%. as forthe videos, you dont honestly need high quality its pointless. as long as you can read the words and make out shapes it doesnt matter, but ill tell you about them anyway, jsut to save time. Theres only a coupple that are important.
The first is the new secret movie, what basically happens is the knights fight with this old guy in ansems cloths, and the old guy sommuns kingdom hearts, in the end, mickey is standing there watching. heres a link, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS8sNr31zLg
next is one where Xiggy and Zexion are talking about a room in castle oblivion where Xemnas has his “friend” which is aquas armor, nothing special but to see it, just go back in this website a few pages.
Next is where xemnas goes down into a secret room in hollow bastion and talkes to Aquas armor and calls it friend.
those are really the only important ones i think you need to see. anything to add Sean?
i new about the new se
and i just wanna know who is getting hit and stuff
thanks though for the info
I bet if you purchased the guide book, many of your questions will be answered. Or just go to gamefaqs and look through any walkthrough.
or read lunas post
lol
Well, i would think some of the vids where the organization is gathered and talking may be important if you look closly enough to what there saying
well ok, i suppose but its not really much new stuff, most of it(to my memory) was covered in the game(kh2) so, i dunno how relavant it is.
i dont think theres anything in the vids thats new and we havent talked about it yet
ok thanks
man im trying to beat kh2 hard mode, yeah right
luna u always have good tips i just need some help with these fights
the part tron sail barge
the boss in the second pridelands
some on xaldin but im always saved by mickey there
ummmm
any other hard fights(or events)
not too worried about siax cuz i just eat him normal mode to prob and
when i first played it on easy mode i hade a wireless contorller
when i faced siax the batteries were dying so it was like my char was stuck in a box and i could only go 1 way(north sounth right left)
i thought this was part of the game untill i beat him(1 try lol!!!!) so hes easy
but if u have tis on the other stuff plz tell me
Man, they are nto that hard, trust me, just listen to this.
For the sail, i believe you have peter pan summon if im not mistaken, use that, neverland, 2-3 hits with neverland, those giant guys are done, best, yet cheap summon ever.
For the giant bull type thing, be patient, wait for the reaction commandsand when you get to fight the creature on top of him, use the limit with simba.
Xaldin is i think the hardest boss fight for some reason, but i have a huge tip for you. When he goes invincible and unleashes that giant energy beam that spans the entire bridge, summon chicken little and enter fps mode, you are now immune to that beam and you take no damage
yeah i always wondered how to dodge that beam
alothoh if u do the reaction comand with beast u dodge it too
thanks btw
i just got kh2 bout a year and 2 mounths ago
so im not exactlly the expert(got kh1 a day after i beat kh2 witch was like a mounth)
why would you ever play the second before you play the 1st?
i did it taht way sean, i had such a low attention span when the first came out i was like F**K this, then i tried the second one and was like sweet then i played the first and we liek even sweeter. but i recomend for xaldin, save your Mp, and use relect a few tiems in a row, that way when he gets off it doesnt massive damage and you save your drive gauge for a drive. plus, right before you go to fight him, go into master, that way you know your not going to get anti form, other than taht Sean covered what i would tellyou.
I said that about kh too when it first came out, but i didnt wait the what, 2-3 years for kh2 to come out to play the first one, i gave it a chance, and it definitly payed off for me
yeah…i didnt. I was younger, and i never went back to it, and at first i didnt even want kh2 because of it, then i did like you did, and gave 2 a chance and then got 1 and then COM.
omg omg omg!!!!
i cant get past demnax!!!!!!!
Use the Wild Dance reaction command. That should solve your problem. do that as fast as possible and you should be fine.
i am!
thats not really the prob
if i buy some potions i should be fine
lol i bought 65
if you cant beat the part where he gives you ten seconds for ten clones, go in wisdom and use fira around the place. and sorafan, ill let you in on my foolproof stratagy. ok, this is how i beat the harder battles.
Have your mp and drive gauge full, and use the knocksmash limit on whoever your fighting, then drive and attack him in that form without using magic, then when your drive is up, use knocksmash again, then use one eather, and use it one more time, then jsut continue as normal, most of the enemys should be close to if not dead by that time.
thanks!
i got past him
im half way through yay!
Knocksmash is by far the best, yet cheapest limit ever, for bosses it takes out almost a full life bar per hit. By the time the whole combo is over with i taken out about 4-5 life bars, its awesome
yeah, like i said its kind of a cheap stratagy byt when your stuck and cant beat someone its very effective.
i used it when i was close to winning a boss battle, and i was having trouble getting the neccary 3-4 hits then the finishing combo, cause very hit by that limit is a finsihsing hit
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!
i fianally beat hard mode
i wanna thank u guys for ur tips
other wise i would still be on dymnx(lol)
so now i beat easy normal and hard(in that order too lol)
Just because you beat the game on proud mode doesn’t me you have found all the answers. Play through the game at least 3 or 4 times before you start asking more questions. I know I sure did. After reading the reports in order, many things began to make more sense to me.
i have
i read all the reports
and i have this huge great theroy that will take a few days to write down
ill start typing it tomorrow night
yeah lets not, im pretty sure most people here dont really care about your theory and its nottihng we havent heard before. also organization said to beat it through 3 or 4 times, well you need alot more than that to be on a level with people here. IF you havent beaten the game at least 5 times, i dont think that you know much of anytihng. i think it requres about 15 times befoe you can actually break down things that need to be broken down. Ive beaten the game over 50 times, and i notcied alot of things most people havent. Once youve done that, then you can really comment and your theorys will be taken seriously.
this theroy is new bradn new never been said before and i have a lot of deatials to support it… ALOT
sorry i havny been able to type it
been kinda busy….ill probably start tonight
That’s what you said the last time.
see, i havent gotten the time anymore to play through the game 50 times, and watch all the scenes over and over again…besides, i beat what i needed to beat, got 100%, beat all the modes, played through with all the routes, sword, shield and magic, yeah, i got it down
I saw on you tube a trailer that sora dies or he is frozen is that true? And when is kingdom hearts three coming out I want to buy it.
One, it’s not KH3 and two,that doesn’t seem right.
why dont you read what it said, cause im sure it said, kh2, final mix secret trailer…and i swear to god, next person to call it kh3, im gonna get there ip address, and hunt them down, and kill them with a rusty spoon, cause if they even listend to any of the news or itnerviews, they would know its not called kh3!!!!!!
*laughs* I like your idea, Oblivion. But don’t lose your temper over this matter. Whoever this kid is probably said this just to piss us off. Relax man!
ok i started my theory on word….
and its not sora or kh3(least the next one wnt be)
i agree with oblivion, if your stupid and dont read the last posts, then go away.
Please do.
sweet they got the new site runnnig
and im the first to post!!!!
well here at keast
mt thoeries going well guys
ur all stupid
Why do you guys update the page everyday?I wanted to read more about the new kingdom hearts games but now I can’t because the page was updated.I really like kingdom hearts so I would really like it if the page was changed back to the way it was yesterday.
sorry,I found out how to get what I wanted to read.I am still new to this website.
The time of the posted replys are wrong.It’s 7:55am but it says that I posted this reply at5:51am.I posted this reply at 7:53am.
I LIKe it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is there a new room in kh2fm becuse i saw a youtube video and it looks like there is a new room
the video link is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8BAkdwevI0&feature=related
time at 16:12 look by the computer room
and below