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Kingdom Hearts 3D Announced!

Org.XIII reporting in,

A few weeks ago at this year’s E3, we have learned of a brand new Kingdom Hearts game, Kingdom Hearts 3D! What can we expect? Nomura has plenty of surprises up his sleeve.

Sadly, it will be made for yet another handheld system, the 3DS.

Currently, there are new worlds in the process of being made.

A demo was displayed at E3. Sora and Riku appeared in the demo. A Twilight Thorn was encountered in Traverse Town! You can read the rest of the demo by clicking here: http://www.khinsider.com/2.html

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  1. Eagl
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Im actually nosy on this new game. But my anger towards another year with no KH3 has gotten me almost furious. I know he wanted to take a break, but come on, its been 4 years going on to a fifth soon I believe. We really need something new on KH3 before this year ends so we know there are plans in working, leading to a speculation about it.

  2. OrganizationXIII
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    This one really makes me curious. How the hell it’s possible for a twilight thorn of all things to appear in Traverse Town makes NO SENSE. At least not right now anyway.

  3. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    i thought he said once his team finished with FF14 they were gonna begin on kh3. dont quote me, but i thought i read that somewhere.

  4. Eagl
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Exactly, everything about the 3D is crazy. Also wasnt it versus XIII? If my memory serves me right that game has been postponed for a really long time now. I almost start to believe its the game worlds version of Detox

  5. GoldenEyeRa
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Nah Versus XIII was on hiatus while that team helped the FF13 team finish their game. They took a short break after that and are now back in the saddle, new Versus XIII worldmap gameplay images were shown last week.

  6. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    I actually really liked ff13. It was amazing, but im dissapointed that 14 is going to be an mmorpg. i dont care for mmos, so really, versus 13 is my only FF hope for now.

  7. Eagl
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Okay, now we know that. But this will hopefully be the last puzzle before KH3. And I believe Nomura said something about upcoming hints in the 2 new game (3D and Re:coded), or at least in one of them.

    Also, an mmorpg for FF, Im not buying that idea. I get a feeling it will pretty much be a half-hearted project while they still will produce new games. Plus its hard to get a grip of that market, especially now when Bioware is working on a new Star Wars called The Old Republic, (which I follow deeply). Maybe not a WOW-killer, but might very well be a tough opponent.

  8. eh
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    So since this game is for the 3Ds is it not going to work on regular DS?

  9. OrganizationXIII
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    That I don’t know yet. When more info becomes available, we will update you guys.

  10. No. 7, The Luna Diviner.
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    although i do not know for certain either, im fairly confident that it wont. The game will be programmed to be seen and played in 3d, not in 2d on the old systems. and a 2d system is not going to have the nescessary components to properly show a 3d game. they may add an extra layer into the games programming so that it COULD be, but chances are…no.
    think about it, can you play wii games on a gamecube? no, because the wii had new technology that the gamecube did not. same concept, the 3ds has new technology that the ds did not. i dont tihnk ive ever seen a game system that has been like that, where older systems can play new games.
    chances are, youre going to have to buy a 3ds if you want to play.

    and the old republic. i saw the trailer at E3, and it was one of hte most amazing things ive ever seen, i was SOOO excited to play it, until i found out it was an mmorpg, then i instantly lost interest. FF is the same way, i may love the series, and it may look pretty, but mmorpgs arent my thing, and im not going to try one just because a game looks nice.

  11. Eagl
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Luna pretty much said it about the option to play at an old DS. And I couldnt agree more abiut mmo. My on the verge of obsessions about the KOTOR-serie is actually the only reason I will play it

  12. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    I only ever played one of the KOTOR games, and it was decent, but im not as big a fan of the series.
    i am excited for Fallout: New Vegas, Assassins Creed: Brotherhood, and The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword.
    those all looked very promising at E3, so im waiting anxiously for those to be released.
    and of course, BBS.

  13. Eagl
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Agree, those titles really did impress. Actually overall I believe it was an extraordinary good convent. Cant really compare to anything, but there were actually really many games were interesting.

  14. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Yeah, i was really pleased with E3 this year. Nintendo had a HUGE press conference what with the new zelda, the 3ds, their partnerships with people like squeenix, etc. plus, that beautiful new kid iccarus game. ive never played the series, but it looked nice nonetheless.

  15. Eagl
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Indeed. Although there will be a lot of games that did sounded interesting, but due to the machine I probably never will really follow up and play a lot of them. Especially Nintendos games will be unplayed.

  16. GoldenEyeRa
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Yeah this year’s E3 was great! Although Microsoft really dropped the ball in my opinion, two hour conference with maybe ten – twenty minutes of good footage, tops. I’ll never forget Skittles… ughhhh…

    I was looking forward to New Vegas a lot, but I’ve recently had a total Fallout 3 fest (70 hours in the last six weeks or so), so I think I’ll have to take a six month break or so before I pick that one up! Brotherhood’s looking excellent, really looking forward to that. Silent Hill 8′s also looking very promising, so I’ll be keeping my eye on it.

  17. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Ive wanted to replay fallout 3 for some time now, but im resisting so that i can save it all for new vegas. I loved fallout three though, definetly one of my top five favorite games.
    and yeah, Brotherhood, super excited. im not sure how i feel about the multiplayer at this point, because im not a huge multiplayer fan, but the storyline looks both beautiful and excellent. i loved AC2, and this is just a better continuation on that, so november 17! im looking forward to it.
    there was a coupple FPS that looked promising as well, but i dont remember what they were called. the only one i remeber is bulletstorm i think, which i thought looked nice for an FPS.

  18. Ricky
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    I don’t know much about assasin creed but brotherhood does look good and about old republic you guy said it not cool.
    and about kh on 3d probably only playable on 3ds since it just might be like saying kh1 for PS2 only, now KH 3D on nintendo 3DS only.
    my opinion don’t know if thats it hehe
    and a game thats old ( very old ) getting renewed is
    mortal kombat which was for PS1 now for PS3 looks good ( I like it hahha )
    and another game would be Killzone 3, Medal of Honor, FF13 Versus that I dont know anymore when will it be release, that by what I read on your past post its gonna take longer haha
    I know it has nothing to do with this: but what do you guys think about X Box Kinect??
    it looks good but is it?

  19. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    well, i dont know anything about xbox so i cant really say anything about kinect. however, I really did like Medal of Honor.
    RICKY nice to see you back. its been a while.

    anyway, since im trying to expand our fanbase, and have been telling people to come to a KH website, i think perhaps we should talk about something KH related.
    so you know what REALLY dissapointed me? that you never get to partner with saix in 358. i can understand Xemnas, beucase hes the leader, but i thought there should have been at least one mission where Saix went with you, even if it was just to babysit you once you got to those machine placing missions at the end. everytime i play 358 i cry a little inside.

  20. Ricky
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    hahaha yep, I like all the good news
    nice to hear about you guys.
    hahaha well I would say Saix should have been with Roxas on at least on 1 mission but he also acted kinda grunt plause he was part of the Org. 14 mem. project so he might have decide not to help and just hear from Axels info. and I always get a feeling in the end
    what if Ventus hearts really was inside Roxas or at least a bit, making the appearance influence hahaha that could be

  21. Reza-Kaze
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Well i certainly have a lot to catch up on don’t I?

  22. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Well he is the second in command, so i can understand why he didnt go with the lowest member of the organization, but i just would have liked to seen him in action once. i mean, i used him in the mission mode, but i just would have liked to see him in story mode at least once.
    And ricky, that is why roxas looks like ventus, because vens heart is residing in sora, so when his nobody was created, it took on the look from the other side of his heart, which technically is ventus as he sleeps in there.

    and REZA! good to hear from you, you should get caught up so you can get back to the heat of commenting.

  23. GoldenEyeRa
    19 mos, 1 wk ago

    Woah, Reza, great to have you back!

    I never ended up finishing 358, but it is strange that Roxas and Saix (during the game anyway) never tag team, especially seeing as you constantly see him in TWTNW.

    Several bits and pieces during the storyline of that game kinda seemed forced to me as well, as if Nomura was making it, and realised that there are some KH fans that wouldn’t buy 358 because nothing ‘new’ would be included in the base story if he just followed what we knew. So he tried to inject some MGS3 style ‘retro-twists’ where the player is shocked by the fact that they don’t know what they thought they did. 358 seems like it added these things a bit late though (like the cameo appearance of Terra, or Aqua, can’t remember which one).

    It was mostly a good game, but there were some weak points. Also, not sure if its actually Nomura’s fault, story-wise – as I remember it, Daisuke Watanabe wrote 358′s story; he was involved in writing KH1. KH2 was written by Kazushige Nojima (FF7, FF8, FF10) from a story planned by him and Nomura. So the mediocre aspects of the overall 358 story can probably be blamed to that change.

    Anyway, bring on BbS!

  24. OrganizationXIII
    19 mos ago

    REZA, my man! It’s been soooooo long. Where the heck have you been? You had all of us worried. Good to have you back on board! You’ll catch up with the news soon enough. This is great; maybe even that one girl who was on here fequently will come back too. I don’t remember her name. Golden, Reza, or Luna, do you guys remember?

  25. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos ago

    Oh, dang, i remember who youre talking about…what was her name?……..
    Tirition? something like that, because i allways thought it was triton until she told us she wasnt a male, then i relooked at it, and realized it wasnt. but shes been gone for a long time now, even before this palce fell apart, so i doubt theres any coming back for her.

    but i didnt really care for the story of 358. First of all, i hated xions character, she really aggrivated me. she was so whiney and annoying and somewhat self centered, and she wasnt even a real person! secondly, the missions got to be VERY tedious. collecting the emblems and breaking the shadow blobs, that was stupid (although not really story related, still the story missions) and then the whole
    Spoilers
    fight with xion at the end. it was just to dramatic and obnoxious, it didnt even feel like KH, it just felt like… well i dont know, but i didnt care for it.
    PLUS! NO TEAMING WITH SAIX!? come on.

    on a side note golden, it was ven who Xiggy saw. he was looking at roxas in Wonderland and said something like, “He used to give me that same look.” then there was a cameo of him.

  26. OrganizationXIII
    19 mos ago

    Triton… That was it! You never know, she might just randomly reappear again. What’s the link for the youtube video you made, Luna?

  27. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos ago

    hey, stranger things have happened, she may just show up one day, all im saying is i doubt it.

    and i havent made a video yet, cuz i dont exactly know how, ive never made a “collection of images/video with text inbetween” video. all ive done so far is go around to already posted videos and tell fans to contact me for information on a kingdom hearts community.

    if i have the nescessary components need to make a video, i plan to do that once i learn how, i just havent gotten that far yet.

  28. Eagl
    19 mos ago

    Whoa whoa whoa, is this place active again? Anyway better to se the return of Reza as a sign, these place will shine again. Welcome back mate

    Anyway I never played 358/2 days, probably never will since I dont plan to put money on a DS for it. And about the team-up with other members, come on now. No missions at all with them? Wouldnt it be a wonderful thing to let them have a mission with Saix and another one with Xemnas. A really difficult task that not only forces you to bring the majors, but to show you how youve advanced in the group and a story for that mission with really much interesting info. Something that would change Roxas forever, maybe importance to the whole serie?

    Hahaha, I actually remeber when Tirition told us she was a girl. Some of us got quite surprised ;). Nah but I do hope she will return, she were one of those that left a mark on the page, and you never want to lose them. But if reza returned everyhting can happen

  29. FiraGun90
    19 mos ago

    Useless!! 3DS? Another game on a Nintendo platform? Dammit! Well… E3 is well gone, and I think we have DK1317. Maybe they’ll show the Japanese KH3, and with that, it wont be out until 2013-2014. IDC KH3 = Epicness beyond proportions.

  30. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos ago

    indeed, kingdom hearts 3 will be epic considering its finally the end of the Xehanort saga, but thats one thing that worries me, whats going to be next?
    i hope them saying the end of a saga like xehanort doesnt mean that were going to see a new bad guy spawned from some rediculous idea. in my personal opinion, the greatest series are the ones that end leaving you satisfied yet wanting more, not ones like FF that go on for 30 years.
    if i was nomura, i would take a little more time, and make KH3 the most epic thing ever, then end with its release, leaving things on a high note.

  31. Eagl
    19 mos ago

    Im sure Nomura is well aware with the pressure on KH3. He practicly needs to make it a banger, otherwise everything he bulit around KH will just fall down.

    Also, when it ends, I really want it to end. And I have a feeling KH3 doesnt will give me that statisfaction. With all these new sidetracks they have started to build up a lot of new strings and stories, connected to Soras story. It would just be strange to see an end with KH3 then.

    I still have my dream about a KH set in the far future with Sora as a living legend. After a “retirement” he needs to go out and do his thing, saving the universe once again. Maybe even during a period when more people wielded a keyblade

    Also we have a new face guys, one of many to follow? Welcome to the site Firagun

  32. OrganizationXIII
    19 mos ago

    Wow this site is coming back to life day by day! The layers of dust have been removed from the engine and now the gummi ship has taken flight once again! Nomura seems to be great at concealing information abou KH3 in particular. You’ve a point there about Triton, Luna. Welcome aboard, FiraGun.

  33. Reza-Kaze
    19 mos ago

    It’s gonna take a while to get back into the swing of things with all this new info, but im certainly going to try.

    Luna-thanks for the email, if it wasnt for that i probably wouldnt have visited anytime soon.

    Org-great to hear from you too, ive just been busy with everything else you can imagine. Work, transfering schools, it is just a giant pain.

    Alrighty…lets see what i can do here..

    358/2 was interesting to say the least, i was disapointed as well as not being able to team up with Saix, on a mission or two. You couldnt really expect much from a side game, perhaps that is why people wanted a whole lot more.

    Now to the main story, with KH3 yet to be announced really, unless of course ive been that much out of the loop, is gonna be very interesting to see which road they take. If it is the end of the whole Xehanort saga, in my mind you can’t go anywhere else with it. Xehanort played a part from beginning to end, he is as valuable to the story as Sora is. I dont see anyway they can turn the tables to a new saga anytime soon. They can however, later down the line, depending on how it finishes, a “discovery” of a piece of a keyblade that starts everything over again. Sounds cliche but that is about the only way they can add on to the story and not drag it on

  34. OrganizationXIII
    19 mos ago

    We will try our hardest to restore everything piece by piece. KH3 does seem like the end of the whole series though. But then again, KH 3D makes no sense. What the hell is a twilight thorn doing in Traverse Town?

  35. Reza-Kaze
    19 mos ago

    Well, Traverse town is one of those inbetween worlds isnt, like sitting in one of the twilightl realms? And if it is theorized that the twilight thorn is the nobody of the..um..giant dark thing..i definitly blanked out on it’s name, then it could show up anywhere. The real piece of info i think im missing is when is the time period on the KH3D?

  36. OrganizationXIII
    19 mos ago

    That’s something I can’t even answer. Only Nomura knows that right now. He did say it was a whole new adventure with new worlds involved. How that’s possible, beats me. I think I read somewhere that things are different where they would never be possible in KH1.

  37. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos ago

    wow, i actually had six comments to read before i could make my post. it may not be like the good old days, but its a start nonetheless.
    Reza- you were a valued member of the original five, and since four of us were back together, i thought it was fitting to summon you back as well. your a great asset to this site, and my personal friend, so i was happy to do so. BTW, the giant heartless thing, wasnt it like darkside or something?
    as for 3DS- i hope that they dont try to work the 3d aspect of the system into the game, like making a different world for sora to visit that has something to do with alternate dimensions, because i would not be okay with that.
    as for Kh3- i really think if theyre going to end the xehanort saga, that sora needs to end as well. dont get me wrong, i love sora with all my heart, hes one of my favorite heros of any game, but Xehanort and sora are fairly central to one another. i mean, look as far back as BBS, ten years before kh1, SPOILERS! terra and ven were buddies, they ran around together, and look what happened, Ven ends up with sora, and terra ends up as Xehanort (well sorta) but even from the start theyve been connected. then, kh1 with his heartless, kh2 with his nobody, etc. im not sure how you could have a sora themed game, but enter in a new villain that would be anytihng close to Xehanort. it would just be out of place in my opinion. theyre connected in many ways, and have been since 2001 when the first game came out, if xehanort ends, i feel sora does as well. however, there is still some hope, perhaps like eagl said, sora could be a hero of time or a huge legend, and change the era with sora as an underscore, or perhaps a teacher or something. but sora as the main hero, i dont know i would be okay with that.

  38. Reza-Kaze
    19 mos ago

    YES!! it was soo annoying i couldnt think of it.

    And your completely right, Xehanort and Sora are together like Ying and Yang, cant have one without the other. Even if you can turn it another way, i wanna see the series end on a high note rather than drag it on…

    Of course i wouldnt mind seeing say a random trailer after a definite ending to the series showing something mysterious..leave something to the imagination

  39. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos ago

    yeah, you could end the series then have a small scene after the credits that showed sora as an adult with children or something like that. but i think sora and xehanort need to end together.

  40. OrganizationXIII
    19 mos ago

    Ah so make comment number 40! I agree, Luna. By the time a KH3 does come out, I’ll probably be halfway through college by then.

  41. Ricky
    19 mos ago

    I was thinking like yes Sora will end on KH3 but becoming a master and become another character like Erauqs and then another character comes in action leaving space for another villian,
    and yet it will not be the same of course.
    Also in KH3 i believe its where Sora gets separated in this ying yang, otherwise why make games without him. Also what if KH3D is the key to a new enemy. I don’t know haha
    Plause I’ve always wanted a game from the begger past “The Keyblade War”
    Maybe that could show aspects of new enemys, what if Erauqs and MX weren’t actually the only survivers or if not make Sora and Riku in my opinion could be Masters, no one is there to tell them so, unless they find Aqua and wake up Ven, to name them and they pick the next key barriers
    For something I just thought it sounds a bit good hahaha and Reza glad to have you back

  42. GoldenEyeRa
    19 mos ago

    I really just hope Square can learn from the West’s quick turn-around times. Its gotten to a point where I think fans aren’t willing to wait huge amounts of time between major games anymore, and all the silly spin-offs and side-quels are more an annoyance than something to pass the time. Hideo “MGS” Kojima recently said the same thing re. his next game – after getting back from E3, he realised Japanese developers are losing the initiative, they take years to make big games and the quality can be disappointing, ie. FF13, whereas Western teams, which aren’t much bigger, are able to make huge sequels quite quickly and successfully, ie. AC2 and a plethora of other things in the last year or so.

    Hence, he’s pledged that his team (KojiPro) will release their next major game within two years, and encourages other Japanese developers to attempt the same thing. Nomura could probably benefit from this in particular – right now I think everyone would be fine with a ‘good’ Versus 13 next year, and then a KH3 in 2012/2013. That seems logical, economic and effective to me.

    The only Japanese developer off the top of my head that everyone is fine with having large turnaround times these days is Team ICO – The Last Guardian could still be two years away, but I and many other people I’ve spoken too within the industry agree that its fine. Ueda’s track-record allows him that leeway. Other teams, like Level-5, have a faster turnaround, and are still really well respected (ie. Layton games, upcoming Ni no Kuni).

    So really, its just Square and Capcom that are majorly dragging their knuckles. FFV13 needs to be done sooner, rather than later, and a KH3 and RE6 need to be properly showwwwwn within 18 months, not just ‘Oh yeah, we’re doing it, its a big secret’. Very few consumers can take that anymore, especially with series that are already in hot water (fans split re. RE5, KH fans losing interest in spin-offs). If Nomura waits until 2013 to show off KH3, not even release, I mean just show it publicly, I’d say public interest will be all but nil. One of the guys at Ubi mentioned a similar thing yesterday re. AC Brotherhood, that the series will take a break next year, but that AC3 will be shown in 2012, because if they wait too long interest in a franchise can just die out.

    Right now, Square’s risking that with KH I fear. Come on, TGS!!

  43. Eagl
    19 mos ago

    Very alid point. I can say myself I have started to lose interest in KH. Even the decrease of followers on this site can be linked to it. All his projects are slowly getting out of hand.

  44. Ricky
    19 mos ago

    another why would be sleeping Sora to much, people didnt like that, and I myself can say that im getting sick of this waiting and all.
    I would say that if KH 3 comes it should like late this year and announce it for japan in 2011 fall and at the beggining of 2012 or in the middle of the year for NA, if he wants to wake up the fans, if not, I don’t know, maybe for 2011 teh first vid. even if it lasts like 40 secs. hahaha but what Golden said is completely real.

  45. Eagl
    19 mos ago

    I dont think KH3 will be released 2010, or even 2011. At the moment they are working with Re:Coded and the 3D, which seems to be in early stages. Also it will take some time to make a game as KH. So unless Nomura holds something as secret as Pandoras box. Hopefully it will be alot sooner

  46. Reza-Kaze
    19 mos ago

    im pretty certain that unless they have been working on it in complete secrecy, there no chance of that game being reeased even in japan in 2011

  47. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos ago

    im guessing a trailer will be shown at E3 2012. but i doubt the game will come out until the following year. they have to finish 3d first, which im guessing will take them well into next year, probably a christmas release of 2011 for that, and they also have to work on Re:Coded. so unless theyre going to take on three projects at once, were probably going to have to wait.
    now a trailer may be shown at next years E3, and then the game will be put off for a while, but im not so sure that with working on the other two games, anything will be shown anytime soon.

  48. Eagl
    19 mos ago

    I know Nomura said he plans on release a new game every year. So if we count like this, BBS this year, Re:Coded in 2011, 2012 we will get 3D while KH3 is released 2013. So unless something different appears that will interrupt with the process, I believe we have the official year to focus on.

  49. eh
    19 mos ago

    Then some type of delay will happen and it will be 2014.

  50. hhh
    19 mos ago

    stuff like that always happens

  51. OrganizationXIII
    19 mos ago

    It definitely does. All we can do now is just sit tight and wait. Our hands are tied at the moment.

  52. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos ago

    honestly though, its starting to get rediculous, how long must we wait for a kh3. seven to eight years? i mean, Kh1 came out in 2002, then Kh2 in 2006, only a four year difference. Then Kh3 in possibly 2013 or 2014. come on nomura.
    but still…ill wait with an eager heart, cuz im a die hard fan. i can successfully say i wont ever lose interest.

  53. Reza-Kaze
    19 mos ago

    well i hope i wouldnt lose interest either before they finished up the series, but it is getting out of hand. BBS needs to be a game that is something beyond special to tide me over till KH3

  54. Eagl
    19 mos ago

    Not to forget, the hype about KH raised even more after KH2 than before. with a bit more pressure they would be more eager to make a third one. Especially since Nomura said he already have ideas in discussion for KH3 when asked about the ending with the letter. Now we have instead 5 other games (included Re:Coded) between KH2 and KH3. Nothing bad about them, but theyre still sidetracks.

    And I have definitely lost a little interest, but it will never be gone. As Luna said, Im a die hard fan as well. And KH related news will always interest me.

    According to BBS, I watched some live streams when the japanse version was released, and it looked really great. I dont know how much knowledge you all have about the game, but in the trailer from E3 we saw Aqua facing a person in an Org XIII coat and blue lighstabers, looking similar to Xemnas as the secret boss in KH1. This wasnt included in the japanese version, and its a new secret boss. This secret boss has about the same role as the Enigmatic soldier aka Terra from FM+. Copied from KH2.co.uk:
    “You will think it’s impossible that that can happen at that time of the story, but it actually happens.”
    Anyone else noticed that?

  55. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    19 mos ago

    yeah, i saw that as well, and at first glance was like, “well why did they put xemnas in there?” but then i thought about it and realized of course it cant be xemnas since terranort/Xehanort hasnt technically been…whats the word…”Created” yet.
    so my second though, which is just a theory, is could it possibly be ansem the teacher? think about it, if there is an Org 13 coat, then you would think that character has to do with Xehanort becuase Xemnas takes up the coats when they become nobodies. and Xemnas was Ansem the Wises closest and most gifted apprentice, so if ansem uses double light blades and instructed xehanort, i could see it possible that Xemnas may have taken that as well. remember, Xemnas and the rest of the org members remember their pasts, thats what makes them special, as saix says, so i see it entirely possible that Xemnas remembers his teachings under Ansem the wise, and picked it up from there.

    however, that quote throws me off, because it makes me believe it has to be a character more like xemnas, someone who is questionable.

  56. Eagl
    19 mos ago

    I had the same idea, alrhough my gut feeling doesnt seem to approve. But Id say its the best theory possible. Also dont forget Ansem the wise made the clothes for the nobodies. Thereby another link to him.

    But still I doubt it. AtW isnt known for any combat skills. Also when Nomura said the quote (as I wrorte in the earlier post), it got me wondering. Time travel? Dont think so. Would just be weird. Might be possible to add in, but it just would mess up more than it will bring in. Also here we see blue sabers, not red. Could it be something released from the Terra/Master Xehanort connection? Possible, but it would need one heck of an explenation. It might even destroy more than it will build up to the story.

  57. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    i dont think it can be annyone relating to Terranort/Xehanort. i mean, this scene could have taken place, at the latest, when Aqua is inside the real of darkness after the events of the end of the game( i think thats where she ended up, cant remember exactly though), in which case, Terranort would have just been made not too long ago. i cant imagine having terranort, essentially a newborn, having anything to do with this scene.

    and the blue lightsabers? Just because Xemnas’ are red, doesnt mean his teachers would have to be. Think about it, Master Eraqus doesnt use the exact same keyblade as his students, but they use the general idea when fighting, that is, they fight with a keyblade becuase thats how they were taught. Xehanort/Xemnas, who was taught under ansem, may use a similar idea that is colored diffferently to stand on his own.
    lastly, weve never been told ansem has any fighting expirience, but i wouldnt say that totally rules it out. Hes old, but back in the day, he may have been a real studd, and he may have passed that on in secret to his No 1. apprentice before he was too old to ever do it again.
    Im not saying im set on AtW, i just cant think of anyone else at the moment.

  58. Eagl
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    Before anything, SPOILERS in the third paragraph (second after this)

    I think you misunderstood me about the sabers. I meant to say I didnt believe it would be Xemnas that would be the opponent since it was blue, and not red. But I totally agree with you.

    And Aqua ended up in the realm of darkness after she fought Terranort. After an event (cant remember exactly, but I think terra was behind it) Terranort dove into darkness and Aqua following. While catching Terranort, she knows only one of them can survive, thereby putting her armor around Terranort and sending her away back to Radiant Garden. Aqua herself was trapped in the realm of darkness.

    But my judging from the fighting place, I think it seems to be the Land of departure. However, Im starting to doubt it a little now.

    And according AtW: Agree, he is the wisest option so far, even if I have another feeling

  59. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    ok so i did remember the last scene with aqua.
    another thing that might be of prevalance, can you only fight him/her as aqua? or do all three have the option of fighting it?
    but i was just looking around at secret boss videos and saw a different person fighting. it was “supposidly” a lingering sentiment Vanitas.
    he looked just like Vanitas, accept a different color scheme, but he fought just like old riku. i thought that was interesting. ill include the video link.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DtDEJ4-wcE&feature=related

  60. Slevin
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    I can’t even follow kingdom hearts anymore. I don’t have a DS or a PSP so the past few games have been lost to me and the only ones I bought were kingdom hearts, kh chain of memories, and kingdom hearts II and then they flew off into all this handheld crap. I used to love this game but now I don’t even know what’s going on with the story. Last I played sora riku and kiari found a message in a bottle. After the credits of kingdom hearts II. Now I’m just confused.

  61. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    That actually just gave me a great idea.
    Org, for whenever you read this, provided i dont tell you first: we should have a plot summaries section for Coded, 358 and BBS. that way, people like Slevin could come and stay up to date on the plotline of the games, even if they dont have those systems.

    Slevin: im not getting a vibe from you that youre actually interested in learning about the plolines at this point, but if you were, just go to wikipedia. ive read over their plot summaries for all three side games, (BBS, 358/2 Days, and Coded) and theyre generally accurate. its the fastest way for you to learn about the stories.

  62. OrganizationXIII
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    That’s a great idea Luna! Then you work on some of those while I try to work on the draft you reminded me about earlier. Should have something for you to read today, but I won’t be home all day. So I’ll do what I can.

  63. Ricky
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    hey guys I was reading the past posts and I don’t think its xemnas, unless he tiem traveled whicch I doubt unless he knew how to use one door like the one merlin use to go to Disneys past
    but I doubt it,
    another option would be the kh 3 bad guy??, Xemnas and his heartless are gone,along with the org. members, wait a sec. what happened to Vanitas on the final battle???
    that never gets shown I think :o
    Another Q, when AtW get blown into peices does he get a heartless and a nobody or since he blew up by light nothing happens????

  64. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    well, if i recall, AtW never was killed by his blast of light, he was instead transported to the Realm of Darkness by the blast, and it erased all his memories. the secret ending of BBS, SPOILERS, or part of it anyway, shows Aqua talking to AtW in the realm of Darkness, because she was sort of trapped there, and if i recall correctly, he said something about losing his memories after the incident (keep in mind, this scene doesnt directly follow the game, its the secret ending, but its many years after the game when she speaks with him.) again, if i remember correctly, i could be wrong.
    and we dont think its Xemnas. the only way for it to be Xemnas would be, like you said ricky, some sort of time travel, which i dont believe Nomura would resort too. we were debating on if it could be Atw himself, able to use lightsabers becuase he taught Xehanort. (just a theory)
    and Vanitas was destroyed, i dont know how, but theres a fight at the end of the NA and EU releases with Vanitas’ lingering sentiment. so that must mean his body was destroyed, but his soul is left in the armor. you can find that video in my last post, just click the link.

  65. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    sorry it was two posts before my last one. so three posts from this one.

  66. Ricky
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    yeah I saw the vid.
    and if it was to be AtW, what could he be fighting for?? if ansem lost his memoriees could he have lost some before being Atw what if he is someone else, you imagine AtW as a new enemy, it be crazy haha

  67. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    Well, by the time he has lost his memories, he is trapped in the Realm of Darkness, which didnt happen until, presumably, twelve or so years later in KH2
    If this boss was Ansem, it would have to be before the events of KH, before Xehanort became a heartless i would think.

    on a side note. ive completed one summary so far, of 358/2 days. its lengthy, but you might be interested in checking it out on the right hand side, under the summaries page. I plan to create one of Kingdom Hearts BBS, as well as Coded, but i many not finish those for another week or so.

  68. Eagl
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    Spoilers here as well. Is it only I that feel we should stop with our spoiler warnings?

    Anyway I just love it when a page becomes active. Great idea there Luna, that will help a lot. And yeah, AtW did transport to the realm of darkness ( I think he says for the third time) but has started to lose his memories, but still remember Sora, making a reference between him and Aqua. He also confess he did terrible things to Sora, and as the scientist he is, he hide his data inside Sora. So all of this is after the events of KH2. So youre right Luna

    And that is the sentiment of Vanitas. You could fight him with all the carachters. Also Vanitas was made out of Ventus darkness by Mster Xehanort, as Ventus originally were a pupil of him. Vanitas, a pure being of evil, was the first unversed and later started to spawn all the others. When he got killed, all the unversed were gone with him

  69. GoldenEyeRa
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    Wait… where are the spoiler warnings coming from? KH2 is a four year old game, its fine to spoil it XD

    Unless you guys are spoiling BbS, in which case I’d understand entirely where the warnings are coming from haha

  70. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 4 wks ago

    yeah, the spoilers were for BBS. everyone whos on here should have played KH2 by now.

    next month is going to be KH month for me. i plan to play through all four games in order in preparation for BBS in september. so im excited to start the first one, which i havent played in about six months, sometime soon. just as soon as i finish Tales of Symphonia.

  71. OrganizationXIII
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    At this rate, I won’t need to post the next article yet. Hahaha.

  72. Eagl
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Haha, I actually have taken a long break with my gameplay. And if we focus on KH, my lack of handhelds havent given me a chance to play them. Tahst why Im eager to wait for KH3, since it will probaly be the first KH game I will be able to play in years

  73. Reza-Kaze
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    replay of all the games?

    your insane..

    wish i had the time to do that now a days. Now i just have to get my hands on a psp so I can play BBS

  74. Reza-Kaze
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    your insane to play all four in a row, i dont have the time for that anymore, ha. Now I just have to get my hands on a PSP so i can actually play BBS

  75. Reza-Kaze
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    ugh…is there a delay in the posting or did i find a secret word that prevents posting now?

  76. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    i played 3 of the four about six months ago, its a regular occurence for me actually. they only take me about a week each, so im fixing one month give or take.

  77. Ricky
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    I started playing KH2 this week, I kinda forgot to play hahaha its been long like 7 or 8 months
    playing to much CoD MW2 hahaha
    now my PS3 got damage either buy a new one or I think it isn’t fixable haha
    and well I’m getting the hang of it and with all the info. I play a area and I go like, so thats why it happened such way hahaha
    its crazy but guys I don’t think its Ansem the black hoodded guy, unless he was some kind of big mad man in the past, or he was palnning to do a Org. but not like the one that X made??????????
    crazy plot hahaha

  78. Eagl
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Reza, I think you need to return to the main page, update and then your post is shown. I know Ive had problems of that type earlier

    Also we are not really convinced its AtW, but its the best guess so far

  79. Reza-Kaze
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    see thats what i thought as well so i reloaded the page, closed the browser and all that fun jazz and still no luck, oh well, at least it still went through.

    If i put dedication into the games i could probably do a week and ahalf per game, cause it usually takes me a good 40 hours give or take to get everything done, now just the essentials maybe 33 or so, but with my schedule its been dificult.

    ANd im with you Ricky, the last few months have been consumed by CODMW2, recently started to play red dead but its been usually MW2, im trying to speed through it to get to 10th prestige..lol

  80. 18 mos, 3 wks ago

    OMG, This is going to rule.

    Yeah, I so can’t wait for the 3DS.

    Man, I haven’t been here in ages.

    Hi to all the new people. :P

  81. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    actually, no one here is new. save for ricky, this was the original crew from back when this site first went up. But since i dont know you sammie, welcome. i hope you stick around.
    anyway,
    ive been thinking about something:
    its been said that KH3 is going to be the end of the Xehanort saga, and that Xehanorts final battle with sora takes place then.
    however, after Kh2, no porton of Xehanort remains. Terranort was destroyed when Xehanorts Heartless was made, and then later destroyed in kh1, and Xemnas, his nobody, was destroyed in Kh2. so no portion of Xehanort is left alive. Somehow, i think the original Xehanort, aka, terranort, has to come back. and i say this because aqua and Ventus are both still technically alive, but not on the surphace, and if Terranort came back, the same would post true for terra. i think terranort has to come back, so that Terra can be seperated from MX body, and then aqua and Ventus can come back as well, so that theyre all present for the final game, and that MX is going to be the final opponent, being the Original Xehanort anyway.
    how Terranort/orgi. Xehanort is going to return though, im not sure. i hope its not something dumb like his soul survived in another person, or theres still a type of enemy we dont know of. something like that.

  82. Eagl
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Strange Reza. But the thing is when you refresh the page instant it doesnt add anything. But if you go to the homepage (writing it in the browser) and then access the page you commented on, it usually work. But sometimes its just messed up.

    We do have had some new faces. Although Im not sure they have stayed on. Hopefully they will. And welcome back Sammie, everyone just start to pop in again

    And I believe Nomura said when a persons heartless and nobody is destroyed, they return to their original self. Thereby making your little theory possible. But since it hasnt been taken care off exactly how the process looks like, I wouldnt be surprised if Nomura comes up with a special type of process.

  83. 18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Ooohh, okay luna o.o

    Thank you Eagl, lol.

    Ricky OMG, I just started KH2 again too o.o

    Ummm, I want the 3DS kh so much XD And Zelda/starfox/mario/ect.

    Sooo… how’s every1 doing?.

    Plus: I’ll check this place as often as I can. :P

  84. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    if that were true, about the heartless and nobody thing, then that doesnt make any sense? how, when your lifeless shell of a body (well, sorta) and your heart are both destroyed, do you at all have a chance of returning? that seems like a push for me.

    i started KH1 earlier today, but ill be on two in about three or so weeks, after COM and 358.

  85. Eagl
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Is the heart really destroyed? What if they float around somewhere like Kingdom Heartas or similar. Waiting on their body and sould to return. But at the same time, wouldnt it be better with a rebirth then or something? But actually, it could work, how strange it still sounds like.

  86. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    well if destroyed by the keyblade it goes to kingdom hearts, doesnt it? thats why sora and roxas were so valuable to xemnas. but if someone like cloud or leon destroys one, then i dont know what would happen to it. i suppose Kingdom Hearts may be able to restore the body if the heart was resting inside it. but im not sure.

  87. Eagl
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    The thing is, we have no idea. For some reason it has never truly been covered. Thereby we dont know exactly what happens, when it happens or how. But at the moment I have a feeling we will see the real Terranort in some way

  88. Ricky
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    If that theorie is true it be kind of weird haha but at the same time resonable
    Hi sammie glad to have you back :D
    and well i’m going slow on kh2 like 1:30 a day maybe hahaha
    I was thinking guys a small task reading the ansem reports all kh1 and 2, maybe the answer is in those reports maybe including the roxas reports in kh 358 including some mistery ones that where written that didnt look like roxas wrote them. that could lead to something don’t you think luna?? there are some written papers in 358 that do not look like roxas wrote them but then who did or did you figure that out???
    and well I don’t know something in the games that just might connect

  89. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    i dont think it will be revealed until Kh3 for suspense and plot reasons.
    ive read over all the Ansem reports before, and didnt find anythin in them. but its been a while, so with new information, i suppose there could be clues in there, although i highly doubt it.

  90. Eagl
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Im with Luna actually. The chanses we will find something are minimal. But at the same time, you never know. We will most likely have to wait until an announcment or 3D for clues. Maybe BBS and Re:Coded could bring something as well

  91. 18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Well, glad to be back, lol. Ty.

    Umm, I haven’t played Kh1 in ages o.o I only found it again today, lol.

    I’m getting a psp this year for bbs. :D

    3DS :) I want it now.

  92. OrganizationXIII
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    I haven’t played through KH1 in a while. The gummi ship missions were terribly easy I thought compared to KH2. That must be neat to ride on a keyblade in BBS.

  93. No.7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    or to be able to armor yourself up at will. i think that would be awesome.

    Kh1 is very tedious this time around. im finding that little things in it are really annoying me this time around when they havent in the past. Like swimming in Atlantica, or the oogie boogie fight in general, or having to have alladin in your party in the cave of wonders. i dont know what it is, but its just gotten realy annoying this time around.

    and gameinformer magazine had a two page report on 3ds. how it works and what games were expected for it. after reading that, im really excited for it now. i think it will be awesome having a 3d game system.

  94. Eagl
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Somehting that annoyed me was actually the gummi ship. I just had no desire to do it. But on the other hand, a loving game should have those little annoying moment. Not that it disturbs, but really a few minor things. And how can you not like Aladdin, I always swapped him instead for Donald. That duck never could stay alive

  95. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    i only ever have a problem with donald in the early game. youre right though, until about TT second time, he dies faster than….well faster than i have a funny analogy for. but once he starts to get more mp he does okay, and then once he gets the ability that retains 1 hp even after massive damage (cant remember the name) he is able to heal himself right away with all that mp. so i like donald. i usualy dont ever switch them out because then when you come across a trinity youre hosed.

  96. OrganizationXIII
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Donald was a pain in the beginning of that game. Come to think of it, the other party members you could use weren’t really so helpful. Now in KH2, I thought that Riku was the most useful party member, sometimes more so than Goofy and Donald combined.

  97. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    i agree, i thought riku was extremely usefull, accept for his guard ability which never really worked for me. you know the one set as the reaction commant for him to appear and guard you, whenever i did it, i was either to slow or too fast, and the attack wasnt blocked.
    and Goofy lost a TREMENDOUS level of help when they took away his MP gift ability. in the first game, Goofy was the most vital party member cuz he could keep your MP levels topped off, allowing you to allways heal and defend yourself with Aero. once that was gone, Goofy was just another attacker, and to me he became useless. (save for knocksmash, the limit. i use that sometimes and its pretty good). but with the introduction of limits for the world selective party members, i think they became somewhat more usefull. like Jack in halloween town, i really liked his limit Surprise Surprise.

  98. OrganizationXIII
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Knocksmash and Fantasia were my favorite reaction commands. Goofy’s attack could chop away at like 3-4 bars per hit!!! Fantasia was useful whenever I got surrounded.

  99. Ricky
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    I guess then we shall wait for 3DS and RE: CODED, oh well I always tried to have the right team
    another member that was usless at the beggining was Mulan or Ping whatever name you guys want to use I think that not even Donald was so useless at the beggining hahaha
    and yes Donald gets better when he has a lot of MP

  100. Eagl
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Hey I got post nr 100 guys.

    I have to agree, Riku truly were the best companion. And since I have a feeling for timing I managed to woek very well on that part. Or I did very well throughout the whole second game thanks to the reaction commands. Otherwise when Mickey saved you was also very useful. I especially remember when he saved me during Xaldins final fight.

    Out of the disney companions I would actually say Beast did a lot for me. As Im all about offensive power and strength, he was an excellent choice for me. Not to forget, he saved all of us during KH 1 and Hollow Bastion

  101. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    i usually play a defense game, although this time in KH1 i played a magic game, and im generally liking having all the MP abilities. Because of how the mp gauge works in Kh2 however, i cant say that a magic game would be that helpfull, but ive never done it before, so i cant say for sure.
    and yeah, Knocksmash was really powerfull but extremely cheap. i mean, three to four bars in one hit, i only used it on enemies that really annoyed me, like Demyx.
    Xaldin was one of the toughest fights ive ever played in a game (when i did it the first time). he beat me down more times than i could count, even with breaking out all the stops. i think its because he goes invincible then does that dragon thing, which allways destroyed me. Ive allways wondered why Xaldin was so powerful. i think he was one of the toughest bosses of all the games, but its not like hes really anything special to the org, hes just number three.

  102. Eagl
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Exactly, you never really had any way to get to to him. No real opportunity to go against. Plus, he had those amazing sideburns and dreadlocks, you never mess with them. But as he was one of the guards in BBS, it would explain why he was that strong and sided. Both him and Lexaeus are quiet, strong and independent

  103. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    i wouldnt say Lexaeus is independant, he spends all his time with Zexion alone in the basement. but i didnt think his fight was that hard, in fact, i thought he was kind of a pushover for how big his muscles were.

  104. Eagl
    18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Maybe so. To be honest I never played CoM, but my impression of him was that he always stayed quiet in the behind.

    Anyway, Im going over to Denmark to work until thursday. Just so you all dont go crazy over the fact Im not here for a few days ;)

  105. 18 mos, 3 wks ago

    Lol, we’ll miss you. :D

  106. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 2 wks ago

    finished KH1 this morning. because im trying to play through them all, i didnt bother with the optional bosses, but i did release all the dalmations, get the trinities and get save the queen and king. so i feel satisfied with it enough to move on to COM.

  107. The Light Barrier R
    18 mos, 2 wks ago

    Hey guys I’m Ricky don’t know I just wanted to change the name hahaha so thats gonna be it haha
    and well I kinda like a more defensive game in kh2 since things are faster but in kh1 it was all offensive since its harder to move
    but I liked all of the extra help but Ping (Mukan) total lost hahaha

  108. No. 7, The Luna Diviner
    18 mos, 2 wks ago

    why the Light Barrier R? rickey?

  109. Eagl
    18 mos, 2 wks ago

    Wow. I havent missed much

  110. OrganizationXIII
    18 mos, 2 wks ago

    Nope. I’ve been quite busy lately. I’m still here, just haven’t posted anything for a bit.

  111. The Light Barrier R
    18 mos, 1 wk ago

    I dont know I thought about light, key barrier, so instead of keyblade barrier
    I decided light barrier haha not much reasons but hey crazy name at least hahaha

  112. 17 mos, 1 wk ago

    the 3ds will come out in march 2011 kindom hearts wont work for ds or dsi only the 3ds but kingdom hearts recoded will be for all the ds and dsi ds games also work on the 3ds if you have a ds or dsi you should sell it now and save up to buy a 3ds like me :D 3ds has internet mp3 and a 3d camera and can download apps and you can watch netflix on it it will reach wii graphic level it’s like aportable wii it iss around 200 bucks :(

  113. Sora21
    16 mos, 2 wks ago

    Wow nice to see you guys are still alive! Nice to know I’m back too!
    Also, I’m pretty happy to hear about another game, but I’m not too pleased that this isn’t going to be a game that really matters. Just a little side game, really.

    Also, did anyone beat the final chapter in BBS? :3

  114. 16 mos, 1 wk ago

    Been gone too long again, lol.

    Just came by to say Hi and I’m getting Kh bbs in two weeks!!! :D

  115. Sora21
    16 mos, 1 wk ago

    Congrats! ;3

  116. 16 mos, 1 wk ago

    Make that about 5, lol.

    Stupid brother’s fault xD

  117. Vega
    16 mos, 1 wk ago

    Sora doesn’t know what age he want’s to be….

  118. Gunner
    15 mos, 2 wks ago

    how many more kh games are there gunna be b4 kh3??? i thought after bbs they were gunna start on 3

  119. Sadies
    13 mos ago

    hey, just wondering if anyone knows the person that plays the voice of sora on kingdom hearts II?

  120. Fallenangelkey
    7 mos, 3 wks ago

    been wait forever for kh 3, but i have re:coded, and its fun. but from wat u ppl r saying, kh 3 doesnt sound that great. :_

  121. khfan
    5 mos ago

    Wtf!!! Make it for a real gaming system not this handheld b***sh**

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