Some new information on the new Kingdom Hearts project!
Once again, nothing hugely important, but it should fill in a few blanks for us… at least for the time being.
Regarding a release for KH2FM+ in the West, a new article in UK’s OPS2M reports that the game will be released in Autumn (Fall) ’07 – please note that this is currently false in all ways, as not only isn’t it confirmed, but if it was that would be a US date. If that is the US date, I’m afraid it’s highly unlikely the PAL territories would ever receive the title.
As for the next game in the series, an accurate translation of the text in the Square Party trailer has surfaced online. Courtesy of KH-Vids:
-If you get lost in the darkness, join your hands together like before.
-I am counting the days since my birth.
Has the number of days been recorded?
I don’t want to forget what has happened since my birth.
-With whose heart does a new story lie? (or “With whose heart does the
next story lie?) = Sora, Terra, and Roxas collage in background.
-Movie using scenes from the secret movie (Birth by Sleep?) with a
rearranged “The Other Promise” playing in the background.”
From the looks of things, this means we’ll probably see Roxas/Ven as the main character in the upcoming sidestory. As for who will lead the cast in the next major title, we’ll inform you if anything turns up.
Source: KH Vids, brokenkeyblade of GameFAQs, KH Network, FF & KH Blog and Chalin’s livedoor Blog.


Cool, i would still like to see the video that those words go with, but who is the person talking?
Where is the trailer at online? I want to see for myself.
I forgot to add, I read the article. I think that this is nor big surprise that they are pushing for a series in the franchise. Other sources say that this will all be a prequel to the current series.
It would not surprise me that they do release Final Mix into the west. Several fans were let down when the first Final Mix was not released. It basically comes down to whether or not it will be a money maker.
Strong possibilities suggest too that the next game will not be exclusively for Sony, but ported over to other systems.
The video is not online, and will probably not be seen untill the tokyo game show in septmember, cause when the event that the vid was shown, no cameras were allowed, for obvious reasons.
They say its a prequel cause thats what it looks like. And it is no doubt that they would make money if they brought it to the us, i still dont understand fully why they wouldnt do that in the first place.
As for the system, i dont care if it isnt just for sony, alot of people get mad when some games are exclusive to one system and get very angry when they try to bring it to other sytems, example, devil may cry. Besides, it wouldnt make much sense though, specially because the ones who would play the game, would mainly be those who played the first two, which means they have had to own the ps2, and if they brought the game to the 360 or wii, story wise, wouldnt make sense. But like i said, i dont really care if its exclusive or not, as long as i get to play it
Sony wouldn’t want to publish a new game by a third-party developer this late in the game (especially in the UK). They want people converting to the PS3 asap so they can bring some revenue in for how much it costs to make the console.
As for the storyline, Nomura’s stated that the secret movie takes place “In the past and the future.”
Whatever that means… :D
i think perhaps it would be something like, but dont quote me onm this…
Whatever charactr your playing as, cause im not sure if it will be sora, is doing whatever after the events of kh2. He comes across a history book or something and starts to read, and thats when you play in the past. Or your in the past, and you come across like a time portal; and you can see into the future
I think that is too loose of a story plot. It will probably be a flashback game. I don’t think there will be any time portals or anything like that.
Theyve already shown in kh2 that they can use time portals, but anything can be used, their still thinking of stuiff up in their heads right now
Maybe the gummi ships are able to travel to the past and the future and not just from world to world. It does make some kind of sense. Unless there’s another way to travel that I haven’t heard about.
Time portals?? When. I just beat KH2 again there was nothing of the sort. They can use the power of darkness to travel from world to world. I think tha the element of time travel would be careless on Nomura’s part.
I forgot to say that the Timeless River world does not count. The element of time travel in respects was already a subset of the game. In the grand scheme of things, I do not see how time travel is going to work in the over all plot. Like I said, it would be careless of Nomura to do so.
Whats to say if they could travel to the timeless river, which was the same place at the disney castle, just not the same time, what is stopping them form doing it again. They already laid down the foundation of time travel. It wont be careless for him to do that, it might make sense if the plot goes a certain way, it just needs to be done VERY carefully
Still careless to introduce that element.
Kingdom Hearts is known to break the rules time and time again, as well as the boundaries of video games. A Disney based game, putting prequel game on gba…card orientated, new plot points, Pirates of the Caribbean, singing in atlantica(which annoyed the hell out of me) as well as a stunning trailer for a new game. those are just some elements that they took risks on making which some won and some lost, time is just another stepping stone to their next big achievment
is it just me guys or do you too have problems connecting to the site sometimes?
Yeah. these past 2 days, when i open the site, it says internet explorer cannot open the page. I was thinking it was just my comp.
i dont think so, i think its word press, cause i tried getting on all day today anf it redirected me to a help site for word press
I havnt been able to come in in 2 days
I have had trouble getting the page today. Could be an issue with the server.
I’ve had no trouble! What version of Internet explorer are you using?
i dont know, but al my other sites work, yesterday i coundent get on all day, nothing at all.
like i said, i believe it to be word press, i dont know if anyone else got redirected to the help site for press, but i did
Sorry guys, our server was hacked in the last few days. Surprisingly, KH3 is still here and all archives haven’t been deleted.
Insider’s up again, but the archives were all deleted – I’m waiting on Rey to re-upload them. Sadly, DoC was hacked entirely, and I’m trying to bring back the forum as we speak. I am more than just a pretty face! :D
thanks golden, keep it up,. im sure your doing your best
Good to see things are back up and running.
No wonder why I couldn’t access this site.
yeah, good luck getting things back up golden, im sure you can do it. And if you need any help (i wont be good for much but at least im offering in case) let me know.
Ive been hearing romours about something called dis-soul. Any idea what it could be?
Also good luck Golden
Dis-Soul? Are you talking about Dissidia? If so, it’s a new PSP Final Fantasy game by some rooki director, which plays like Super Smash Bros. It features characters from throughout the history of the series, including Sephiroth etc, and all the non-Nomura characters have been re-designed by him so all the characters have the same look and style.
As for the sites, Insider’s news is still looking grim, and DoC is in the same state it was 24 hours ago. KH3 is still in perfect condition.
Lastly, an update on KH Globe – the project has been hit by massive delays, I’m afraid. KH3′s webmaster, Ash, was set to lead the site, but he hasn’t been heard from since April 22 – we fear the worst.
The webmaster at FF13.com was also set to be co-webmistress, but she’s far too busy for that, with a demanding job and many problems in her life at the moment.
So, the project is sadly on in-definite hold. KH3′s pretty much an advanced blog site, so I can basically keep the place in shape with Rey easily. Globe would require full-support, but… we don’t have anyone to do the job.
We’re gonna sit and talk about it once the other sites are fixed up, so we’ll get back to you when that’s done.
i would say i could be it, but one, i have no experience being a webmaster, and two, im a little too busy myself with school and work to do a fulltime thing, dont get me wronng it be cool, but im not sure i would be able to handle, sorry i cant be more of a help to you all
Ive been reading on Kh-vids and kingdomhearts3.net about something called dis-soul. I cant remember what it said.
IM pretty much the same as oblivion, well, exactly the same, i couldent help out even if i new how. i honestly dont have that kinda time.
i wish i did have more free time, cause i really want this site up, but oh well, this place is fine for me, and as far as that game goes. It was announced at the square enix party. Im kinda pissed cause me and my roomate had the idea for that about a year ago. And golden was right eagle, it is dissidia, which i hope they go through with the making of it too, an once again, release outside japan
From what I’ve read, disouls are pretty much like zombies. Supposedly they can only form if a nobody is defeated. But then I began to wonder. Would this also hapen to the organization as well or does something else happen to them? After all, they weren’t created like normal nobodies.
where did you see soemone say something about dissouls, i just just thought that eagl got the name wrong, are they a new enemy in an upcoming game?
No I meant dis-soul. It apperantly was shown at the trailer at the SE party. But so far its only romours.
well, if it isnt what golden said before, “dis-soul” might just be rumors, what did you here about it anyways?
That it was some on a japanese 2ch blog that had seen the word dis-soul at the end of the new project trailer. But it seems strange that only a few had seen it.
yeah, i would think so too, if it isnt dissidia, then it might just be a fake a rumor
Well we dont know until we see the video
OK, did some snooping, dis-soul is apparently the new buzzword for the new enemy (after heartless and nobody). It sounds more like a bad translation, so I’d expect it might be called ‘soulless’ or ‘desouled’ in the English game.
According the a Japanese blog: “A Dis-soul is what happens when a nobody get destroyed with it’s heart still a heartless. It’s a body without a soul.”
yeah, i saw that as well after i posted what i said, and didnt feel like posting again, but i would expect this new enemy to be called soulless or the soulless, it just sounds right to me. And i got a bad feeling this new enemy, is gonna either be extremely helpful to your character, or a huge pain the ass, or maybe even both
Maybe instead of using drive forms, you get to use a souless.
Nah, im guessing souless will be bad, heartless, nobody, souless. Maybe though you will get some special something to battle them, because like oblivion said, i bet there gonna be a huge pain in the ass.
Its no doubt, its a new enemy, they will be a pain in the ass, but what is keeping a souless from being helpful, at least one of them, like namine helping out. But i doubt that souless arent bad, nor good, somewhere in the middle
Think if souless is a kind of army that Sora must lead.
Hmm, I think it may take me a while to wrap my head around how one is made, and how they’re related to heartless and nobodies.
I’ll keep an eye out unless anything new is shown.
im usre its one of two things, its either really easy to understand, or its complicated like quantam physics
i went to thid one kingdom hearts fan site and it said that if they create a sidestory game…it will just take longer for the third game to come out…..and also ……i heard that they are NOT making any more kingdom hearts games on the ps2 and they might be putting them on the latest portable game systems or making it multi platform…is it true?…..you know…wat i say? i realy need to know….the suspense is killing me!
they’re making a new sidestory, it’ll be on a portable system (probably DS). After that they’re doing the third game which isn’t called KH3, and it’ll be probably exclusive to PS3.
No, there’s no more PS2 KH games.
It just strikes me as odd that their putting the sidestory on the ds rather than the psp
Prbly cuz more people had bought the DS instead of the PSP. But i rather want it on a console. Its not a sidegame its a new serie with connections to KH.
I think that after the sidestory theyre doing KH3
You might be a little mixed up eagl, its a side story that their putting on the handheld, thats why its going there, itll probably be Roxas’s story, or maybe even Xehanort’s?
Okay but Nomura said that it most likely will be more than one title.
Of course, and once it hits the next main game, which most likely be the keyblade wars, that will definitly hit the main system, maybe about 3 parts of this new story he’s making
You know, I might be confused with something else, VERY confused, but I rmember hearing Axel say, ‘Lets meet up again….in the next life.’ It may have been a dream, but I’m not really sure!
what are you meaning? The scene after you defeated Axel in mansion:basement?
Yeah, thats exactly whats shes talking about, its not that confusing, she was talking to Roxas, and he was refering to Sora as the next life
Ahh! Yes, that was it. Thank you. =3
so when is kh2 fm coming out
There are no date set and we dont know even if it will come out outside Japan.
Probably isn’t coming. No news isn’t good news, I’m afraid.
If they do release anything, what I’ve heard is it’ll just be RE:Chain of Memories as a standalone game (without KH2 FM).
i think its a big shame if one of them doesnt come out. I think that the first final mix to KH1 was okay to only release in Japan cuz the other got a better version. But this time both got just as good but the remake only has been in released in Japan. Not really big respect to them outside Japan if you ask me
It just doesnt make sense to me to release re:com, and not the other one, i mean, wasnt it in japan they released together?
Oh and a little announcement that has nothing to do with Kingdom Hearts, as of now, my appearance here will be cut drastically because i am preparing to be going home for the summer. Also, last i checked, the internet at my house was not working, so this Thursday, may be a while that you here from Oblivion in a while until i can get that fixed
Sorry that there’s no internet access at your place, Oblivion – hope you have fun though! :)
As for releasing Re:CoM as standalone, it’s because Re:CoM is pretty much a new game, so English-speaking PS2 players might consider that. But seeing as KH2FM is just the original KH2 extended, they won’t think it’s worth releasing this late in the PS2′s life – Sony wants all attention on the PS3 now.
Hence, Square USA has to consider a way to make both sides happy – Sony needs to be convinced that attention will still remain focused on PS3, but the fans need to be at least a little happy too. The biggest petition circling the Western world to get this game sent overseas has about 60000 signatures on it, and the petition states that ‘(they) would be happy if Re:CoM was released by itself as well’.
Sorry those of you looking foward to KH2FM. All hope isn’t completely lost, it’s just very unlikely.
Ill have to see what i can do to fix it to get it up and running.
And this is what i was afraid of, at a certain point, there just gonna alienate the ps2 and focus the ps3, some of us dont have sufficient funds to get the ps3.
Ill still play the Re:CoM if it happens to come here, but i was reallt looking foward to these extended and new scenes, yeah i can look them up on the internet, but its just not the same as doing it yourself
It is just disappointing that they even remade CoM. Using GBA for a platform was a huge huge mistake. they should have made it on PS2 to begin with.
If they knew they were going to remake it, then yes, i agree, it was a mistake. But i dont think they had that planned. Chain of memories was only suppose to be a link. But what i think, is that Nomura with his new story portions, needed to add some,”behind the scenes” with 2 and chain, without them, the story might get a little confusing
I am saying, don’t put it onto a platform like DS or PSP. they need to make it worth our while
then why even make handhelds? Whats the point of them if every game you want is to make your while? It is to take it on the move, and play wherever. Also, all the data and stuff needed to make one of the games, isnt in need to use the full potential of the ps3 or 2, cause then they would need to put alot more time, and effort into the game. If their gonna do that, mine as well just make anohter main game
I stick by what I said. I played CoM on the GBA and like many was unimpressed. The storyline at the time was good but the parameters of the gaming platform were not good. Like I said earlier, why make a game sub par and then come back and remake it. On top of that they are not even going to re-release it to the U.S. Two big mistakes right there. I hate it when I am a fan of something like this and get stuck having to borrow or buy the gaming platform just play something I like. They need to stick to the big dogs when the next one comes out. If they bring something out on portable they better bring it out on other platforms.
In the end, one might have to play $100+ just to play a game that they been waiting for.
Cause one, they didnt have the thought process what, 3 yrs ago of thinking, hey lets make this game, but in 3 years, lets remake it…
Besides, thats why they made it for the gba, if you didnt want to play it, then thats fine, i played the game, and you know what, it wasnt necassary for me to play the game to understand the story, it helped dont get me wrong, but thats the exact reason why they put it handheld, im sure to this day some people havent played com, and is a fan
wow did i miss alot. Ok, so my Grandad came into town, and i was banished from the computer for the week. OMG, he was annoying. anyway sorry for leaving everyone in the dust, anyway on to kh
I think that a handheld game wa actually a good idea, i mean there cheaper than platforms, so if a family cant afford one, but has a handheld, then its a compltely differant market to target. ITs another way to make money. Also i mean if it did well, it was good springboard into future games on handheld systems. It made money so thell do it again. i think also going off oblivion, that if your a true fan you play all the games, i did, and allways will. but i agree, the story was a waste of time.
They didn’t even change what happened in all the worlds.
i think that was meant to be org, it was just kind of a revisit to the worlds and what happened, i didnt expect anything new to happen in those places anyways.
To me that would make the game more boring, no? I still can’t believe what they did with atlantica in KH2. I was hoping to fight Ursula’s sister or something like that with new heartless and nobodies.
Just read an article on KHinsider about that handheldsa are better now cuz the 360 and PS3 is overengineerd and games for that will be better in a couple of years.
The main reason they make a side-story is A) it’s cheaper, B) they have less to explain in the next game and C) it’s there for the die-hard fans.
So if you want a little more KH, you can go and get CoM. But if you’re not interested, you can miss it – it isn’t essential to the story.
It’s just for those who can’t get enough, really! :)
Yeah, i almost gouged out my eyes with atlantica
Your right, the handhelds are cheaper. But it also cheapens the story as well.
but when you have the idea of putting a game on the handheld instead of a main console, is cause the idiea for that game, particualry CoM, is because the idea for that game isnt that long. And if you were to put it on a console, that game would be stretched out and had boring points in the game. Cause if they didnt, the game would seem underdeveloped, and short of whatever console it was on could really do.
I dont know about you hammers, but the only thing that i hate more in a game than a cheapened story, is a game that doesnt take full advantage on whatever system it is on. And is they originally put CoM on the ps2, and had exactly what they had and didnt change anything, i would be extremely upset, cause i know they didnt do all that they could do
I like many of you on here who post am a hardcore fan. My friends and I keep close tabs on what goes with this franchise. We like many others thought that CoM did not do the franchise any justice when it came out on the GBA. In our eyes it was not a wise move on Square Enix’s part. To us it ruins the purity of what KH is representing story wise.
We just hope that the next game will not be sub par like CoM. KH deserved better than to be put onto GBA. Even though CoM took full advantage of the GBA as a platform, the chosen platform limited the story and its full potential.
When they remade CoM for the PS2, we a bit disgusted that they did not do that starting out. I am sorry that you cannot understand (mostly you Oblivion, since you are the only one to respond to my posts). Like I said in an earlier posting, they bring out a side story on another platform, if one is fan they are going to go out and play it no matter what.
Bottom line is that they should have made it a multi-platform release so that we don’t have to waste money on buying another gaming system just to play one game.
I tend to agree with Oblivion. However hammers does raise a good point of the CoM being “subpar.” The gameplay was not entirely great in my opinion. Sure it was different. Hammers also brings up the fact of having to buy the platform just to play. I did not buy the GBA, I simply played it on an emulater (forgive me of my spelling). Personally I think one way or the other, one needs to play CoM before they move onto KH2 because there is so plot that will be missed out if they do not play CoM and jump right into KH2.
I agree with you hammers, dont get me wrong, the way did that game, it could have been alot better. And if it was on a main platform, they couldve done alot more to begin with, but i dont think they wanted to do that.
And i do understand hammers, why make it originally for the gba when they just remade it for the ps2? And ill have to go back to what golden had said, it is for those hardcore fans that if they wanted to play it, they could, but it wasnt necessary to the story to completely understand it. And i guess they realized how many people probably didnt want to go out and buy a gba, so they re-did it for the ps2.
And yes, i was a little weirded out and confused to learn that they redid it, and whether you believe me when i say i do understnad or not, thats ok. But understand this, thye did not have the original intention to remake the game when they first made it
Well you have to remember that when Com came out, the GBA was the like hottest game system(for handhelds), now, if the next platform game came out, and say it was on the DS, and it really used to its full advantage the touch screen, it might be really cool. i think that that was what the card based battle was supposed to do, it just crashed and burned instead.
i dont have a ds, and being a fan, im just gonna have to get if it comes out, that just me, maybe i can pull some strings and get it for my birthday. But if it does go ds and not psp, im waiting to see how the dual screen will work. Like one screen you use for the battle and the other is watching. i think if they do it like i think they might, they should keep reaction commands, and they will excell with this game
I dont have a DS but my sister have so I dont need to buy a DS. But its going to bee intersesting to see what they will do to the game with the doublescreen. Actually I think it will be best on the PSP but I dont know until the game come out.
Let’s all take a vote on that. All in favor of the next Kingdom Hearts game to be on DS or PSP?
I vote PSP. DS would be too complicated. Plus the graphics are better than the PSP.
I don’t think the game would be that great anyway. Not to be mean, but I just don’t for the one that could be like Com. Sorry.
I vote the PSP for pretty much the same reason as hammers. PLus the DS seems to be more child related instead of teens.
If it’s child-related, that’s where the game would go.
Disney has the main rights to the franchise, and if they think only 15-year olds and upwards buy the PSP (or something in that age-range), they’ll go straight for the DS.
Remember, there’s thousands and thousands of KH players who aren’t even old enough to post on a message board. Strange but true! :)
Even though i think game wise as well as fan base for what handhelds most have, the psp may be the way to go, but i think it be more itneresting to see how it plays on the ds
I think that it will be best for the PSP but as Oblivion said it will bve more interesting on the DS. But I think it will be best for the PSP and the main games has come out on PS and the PSP and a ps console like each other so it could be easier
I dont think the story would change depending on the console, but i think we need to decide which is more important for this side quest, graphical powerhouse(psp) or just fun(ds). And yes, at this stage in the game with all the technology that is out, if you cant make the game look good, that ridiculous, but i rather play a fun game in my opinion
My opinion is pretty much set in stone. Release it for the DS, and it will be poor animation with a fun twist using the touch screen. Release it for the PSP, it will be highly graphical with a boring same old same old style of gaming.
its true that i dont think the ds graphical abilities is as good as the psp’s, but i dont think its horrible. Its tough to suggest which would be better to see it on actually. Best idea on what they should do is release it for both, but then again, has there been any game released for both the psp and th ds?
I am not a fan of the DS. I tried using one once before and it is so clumsy when handling it. Using a pen to move a player around is not my idea of playing a videogame. The PSP is the logical choice in my opinion. It has the better graphics and the simpler handles for controls.
The DS does have some of its advantages. For one it is different in compared to the PSP which offers a more traditional control style. Plus, it is on two screens! I know that sounded lame but come on.
its hard to think how it would work if on the ds, it would be simpler and consistnent if they kept it with the sony standpoint and put on the psp. If they want to try something new, the ds is the way to go, but if all their trying to do is to get the story out, then go with the psp
But anyways, if final mix isnt coming to America, then someone should hurry up and put up all the new scenes on youtube including some battle in translation as well, i know some are already up, but if i cant play the game, i want to see it all.
That’s for sure. What do you guys think Radiant Garden will look like in the next game? In the secret ending, what is the structure that’s shown before Mickey is seen? Could tha possibly be what remains of Organization XIII’s castle?
Or its the reamins of Disney Castle. THink about how the portal to hte ES is in disney castle in final mix. And we see mickey and the ES in the same shot. THinkg about it.
Final Mix is not coming to America. I asked at a Gamestop to see if I could reserve a copy and they told me that it is not being shipped to America.
I was on youtube and found these interesting comments:
“”ive noticed aswell the bald guy he can turn keyblades into balls of energy to open kingdom hearts if you look closely afte roxas or ven is caught by the girl he makes it from a keyblade”"
“”as i was saying ven has a connection with sora,kairi with aqua and terra riku i suppose with that one and also the names aqua means water which kairi means water and also the hair is blue like water, and that old man is Xernouat who has gotten really OLD but more powerful than before he before lost that other guy who looks like riku in dark mode is his Xernouats other half. thats alll i could tell you for now, and this stuff is true it is from Noruma himself.”"
I forgot to mention, someone here may want to think about why Ven looks so much like Roxas. A lot of people think that Roxas came before Sora depending on how long the Organization was around and when Ansem started his experiments.
Does the place where the battle take place in the secret ending happen in Radiant Garden. I believe so since there is evidence to support that hypothesis.
What was that how that Pete and Maleficent appeared in. It looked like Castle Obl. However it differs from the model in the mansion lobby/
One, it hasnt been confirmed or denied of a us release, although after all this my money will be on no, but there is still hoping.
Secondly, its hard to tell exactly which castle that is. When you look back at which ones we seen, Hollow bastion/radient Garden, org xiii’s hideout, and so forth, i think Hammers is on the right track when it could be castle oblivion. They touched upon it in CoM, so its quite possible
We haven’t heard much about Castle Oblivion anyway. All we know is that as you proceed to the next floor you begin to lose more and more of your memories. Hence the name Chain of Memories. It’s too hard to tell. I say it’s either Disney Castle or Castle Oblivion.
I take my comment back. There is no way for that castle or house that Pete and Maleficent were in could be Castle Oblivion. The physical dimensions are wrong. The lord of the castle is Marluxia. The castle is decorated with a rose motif, probably because Marluxia is a master of the flower element. Once Marluxia was defeated, then Castle Oblivion went bye-bye. I am thinking that Castle Oblivion was a free standing world unto its own much like Org 13′s headquarters. Castle Oblivion will probably make another appearance in any prequel Kingdom Hearts game that may come out.
For the future of Castle Oblivion, its usefulness ran its course and it no longer exists or is inaccessible.
Also, has it been touched upon by someone else posting on here that Xehanort, is an anagram for “no heart” or “another?”
Who said that one? Besides Radiant Garden, which worlds do you think we’ll be able to visit again? The most obvious one is probably Disney Castle. I’m sure there’s going to be another world that’s similar to Traverse and Twilight Town. I think Maleficient made it back to her own world possibly. I found it annoying that we couldn’t kill that witch.
I found the anagram on another KH website. They also had a pretty interesting theory too. Please correct this if this is wrong what I am about to say. In talking about Organization 13, they full of Nobodies right. We saw Xehnort’s heartless and nobody. Now weren’t some of the other member’s linked to Xehanort when he was conducting all hose experiments? The point I am getting at is that do the members of Org 13 have HEartless running around out there somewhere?
We already talked about that hammers, Theres only one heartless to ever take human form. And their heartless’s could be nothing mroe than Basinc ones, so we may have already defeated them. (we meaining sora and company.)
Castle oblivion wasnt destroyed i think. When you played as riku, the castle still stood even after sora defeated him.
and i would like to know where the known fact of only one heartless to take human form was said, cause how do you know that, just that there was an organizatin of nobodies, whats to say there isnt heartless, or maybe the new enemies as well
Let’s see if I can put this simpler terms. You’re basically saying that there could be other organizations of heartless and a new enemy, right?
is it really that far out there that it is not at all possible? but yes, im basically saying that, cause to me, its not that far out there to be considered irrational, unless you can prove me wrong
Castle Oblivion served its purpose. We will probably see it in a prequel game that covers Roxas. As far as looking forward, I don’t think Nomura will be using it anymore.
I am with Oblivion. Sorry Luna, but you need more proof to back that up. I respect what you are saying but there still is a possibility that they are out there.
No doubt a prequel game, but im not sure the castle is done yet, its hard to say really. I dont remember it being destroyed. Im not saying it will play a major part in the story in a time fashion after CoM, at least until the story gets wrapped off
Yeah, a prequel sounds more like it. I’ve always thought it would make more sense. To me, if almost all the questions are answered in the prequel then there would be less confusion in the next game.
But then whats the point if all the questions are answered in a prequel, why make another game, its the story line that keeps me in. What i want to get from this series is a plot that doesnt take a prequel game to finish, i would like it to answe some questions about Roxas that i still have, and maybe some more about the organization.
Heres a though that may be interesting…Perhaps one way to fill in the blanks about the organization, what if we could control them, players that help us understand each person, like how they became a nobody, and what the reasoning behind joining.
That would be hard to do, but it just seems interesting to me
Too off the wall for my taste. Looking to the future the Castle is done with. They did even use it in KH2. Yes there is no evidence that it was destroyed or what not but I don’t think it is coming back. It was a world made for CoM and whatever prequel game there is. The only purpose of the thing was to trap Sora and the others there. Maluxra was pretty much the driving force behind it.
The Castle is no more. Period.
too say that the castle is done for all future games, not meaning prequel games, is ludacris. Cause that castle had something important in it, and if it wasnt completly destroyed, someone is gonna try to use it
Doubt it. Like I said, why was it not used in KH2 then? The Castle is done for, there is no longer a need to use it. It was only for CoM. Besides, the Castle was probably cr4eated by Org 13. Since they are gone. There is no longer any need to use it anymore.
I dont think it was created by them, in the scene in final mix where vexen is talking with xigbar, he mentions castle oblivion and their new headquarters. I think the castle was already there.
And i cant explain why it wasnt used, the org members obviosuly wasnt there, which means they left, which meant whatver they were doing there to begin wiht, has completed
Wasn’t their goal at the time to find the room of awakening within the room of sleep?
It seems to me that Castle Oblivion would be out of the picture now. Like hammers said it served its purpose for the organization. Besides the game will obviously move focus away from the organization in the next sequel.
If they were to bring back Castle Oblivion, then they might as well bring back “the end of world” level from the first game. It would serve no purpose.
I think the next game is going to have a greater setting. We all seen the Secret Movie. I doubt that they are going to use Castle Oblivion.
Doesn’t anyone think that it is about time this pony be laid to rest? I get tired of seeing oblivion and hammers going at it.
I agree with you. There’s no need for Castle Oblivion anymore. They would have stayed there if their goal was not completed yet, right? Has anyone seen the beta trailer of KH? If you haven’t yet, it’s on the KHInsider website. You should notice some major differences in the video.
I have read somewhere online that some people say the events in the new secret ending unfold right after the original secret ending. However, I don’t think it’s true. I say this because if it were true, then shouldn’t they have been wielding two keyblades each?
Not only that, but the guy that walked towards them didnt look like the old guy in the original ending. as for the keyblades the only thing i can think of is that the bald guy has some more of power that neutralized the second key, but then we shouldve still seen the blade. It looks and seems like that to be true.
Soras Mickeys and Rikus keyblade was only shown to show that the knights have some relatio nships with them. Nothing more. But in the shadow seems like he is wearing an armor like the knights
How can tell what type of clothing it was? To me, it really looks more like one of the org. black clothing.
That still doesnt explain why the keyblades just disapearred, and it is hard to tell what hes wearing the first time, but the clothing didnt seem to be moving, so it looked heavy, liked armour, i guess everyone made that assumptioon, toom, thats what i believe.
Sora, Mickeys and Rikus keyblade shouldnt be in te movie at all. The only reason they were in was to shown that the knihts had some relationships with them.
Also when Roxas and Xemnas meets in the world of darkness did Roxas give him an answer?
That makes no sense, cause i dont know about any of you guys, but i didnt have to see them, as soon as i saw the soldiers, i either knew it was them, or they were connected in some way.
As for the scene eagl, i cant figure out what scene you are talking about
It’s in the begining of the game, if I’m right. That’s the scene where Xemnas asks Roxas what his name is.
Oh…ok then, i knwo what your talking about now, i just didnt know the name of the place. And if im right…you see that scene twice in the game, that first time, and the other is where you can actually hear roxas talk, he begins to studder, but h doesnt give an answer
I guess we’re suposed to assuhen that he did give answer to him. What happened to Kairi’s keyblade after she fought the heartless? Maybe if Riku decided to live in darkness for eternity she would take his place.
I dont think Riku would do that anyways, he made the coice at the end of CoM to walk the road to dawn, but i think he didnt quite understnad that until the end of kh2.
Kairi’s keyblade must’ve disapearred cause one of the requirements that nomura isnt telling us must’ve went away. He stated that there are things that make a weilder, some are obvious, some are not.
I know I heard this before but how did Kiari get a keyblade. I remember frim the game that Riku handed it to her. Plus how did Riku acquire way to the dawn anyways? I saw he had it in the game before he was transformed back. I think we are giving too amny people keyblades here. It kind of saturates the game a little.
In an interview, someone saked how kairi got it as well, but all he said was that their were requirements, like i said before.
Riku got the way to the dawn, well, it should be obvious, because he took the way to dawn path. In the games before, he had the soul eater, then it changed to way to dawn when he relized he cant turn his back on the darkness.
And as far as too many keyblades go, thats what the keyblade wars is suppose to be about…
Huh, sounds right. It wouldn’t be a keyblade war without keyblade masters and weilders anyway. Is it just me or does Yen Sid play a more important role in the series? Remember when he disappeared after he had finished briefing the trio? I’m curious as to where Yen Sid ran off to in such a hurry….
Org, i already know someone is gonna come by and say, hes only a character that has nothing to do with the story, just like the final fantasy characters in the game.
I dont believe that, yen sid must know somethingn about the war, and if history repeats itself, then the upcoming war as well
After all, he’s the second strongest wizard anyone has ever known. Not too sure if he would know about the keyblade war or not though.
I couldnt think why he wouldnt…if he trained mickey, and if mickey knows of either the war that has happend or is soon to happen( the letter donald found in the begining of kh1, mickey mentions a war…) the yen sid should know as well
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That first letter doesn’t talk about a keyblade war because when shown on the screen, the whole letter is being read. It’s talk about how Mickey wanted to find out why the stars were disappearing one by one. It’s the next two letters that we don’t even get to look at. Do you think that he was wielding the starseeker keyblade before he obtained the other one from the realm of darkness?
I thought that he already had the dark realm keyblade. When he was wielding th starseeker, I thought he put the starseeker keychain onto the dark realm blade to create the starseeker keyblade.
Org, ive spent the past hour trying to find the scene, and the onyl thing i found didnt have the english subtitles, but if i remember correctly, Mickey says the words, a war is coming…
Its tough to say which one he had first, it would make sense that he used the starseeker to help him find the dark realms blade, but until we can figure out for sure when the kh2 final mix secret ending took place time wise, then we wont know for sure
If you remember back to the first KH game, Kiari’s grandma talked about the keyblade war.
yeah, she talked of it, as well as the mentioning of mickey, well, she talked about a war between light and dark, she never mentioned the keyblades directly
She never mentioned mickey
sorry, thats not what i meant, i meant the mentioning of the war by both her grandmother and mickey
is rikus souleater a keyblade?
Yes, it doesn’t have to look like Sora’s or Mickey’s to be a keyblade. They can come in many different designs depending on what keychain is attached to them.
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Oblivion, are you able to play kingdom heart final mix in America and if you can, how ?
grandmothers story was a fairytale but it still had happened. Nom,ura said it in an interwiev. I will try to find it
And did Mickey mentioned something about a war? Icant remeber if he did.
And you can play the final mix but you need a chip or something that allow you to play it.
http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/page/2/
Check it out. There can be things that can be clearer
The thing is, i didnt catch it the first like 3 times i played it either, i was actually the manga on line and angelfire, when it showed the letter and said it. Now whether that was said in the game or just the manga im not sure. I went looking for that scene, and least to say i found, but it didnt have english subtitles.
So there is going to be a surprise for us at the end of the year. Nice. Wonder what it could be
I would be guessing an announcment for the new game. Or maybe he tells something huge about it
no no.According to that website you posted, it said there is going to be surprise in store for Europe and the United States at the end of his year.
I guess that means we’ll just have to keep on thinking about what the next game will feature. To my knowledge, Mickey’s letters have NEVER mentioned anything about a war. I’ve always been curious about Kairi’s grandmother’s story about light and darkness. It may not be so important now, but it could have a major impact on the series later on.
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Has anybody heard anything about when if at all when KK2 FM is coming to the U.S.?
Ive only heard rumours, egm says fall, but like golden said, nothing has been heard yet, so it isnt really good.
And Org, dont worry, like i said, i didnt catch the mentioning of the war in his letters either, in not even sure if its in the game or not, i saw it in the manga though, heres the page i was talking about.
http://www.khinsider.com/khmanga/chap1/014.jpg
there mickey mentions war, but like i said, unsure whether he mentions them in the game or not
I think the game is going to be more cannon than the magna To my knowledge, elements are presented differently in the magna the way they were in the game.
In KH1 Mick does not mention the war is his letter.
Bad news the final mix isnt coming out in NA.
http://www.kh-2.net/?nav=48557
Read more there
your right, i jsut found the video on khvids and in the game he doesnt mention a war, my bad, i just didnt think that the manga and the game were too far off the story line in the first place.
Its a shame too that they cant relize that people in america and europe lov kh just as much, if nto more than those in europe, guess im just gonna have to order magic swap and get the japanese game then.
I know it was a while ago but there was a time when we were ahead of Japan and we got all the cool additional things for certain games. I’m sure that Japan was feeling the same way at the time. So in a sense, you could say that it really doesn’t bother me that much. All the new scenes that have been added only makes everything about KH more confusing. At least, that’s what I think.
it fills in some balnks in the story, and with those additions adds more questions to what we already have, so yeah, it does get confusing
Just to let everyone know I’m still here, and there’s still no news sadly. Hopefully the drought will end soon – E3 is in a week.
Square will be there, so hopefully Nomura will talk to us a little about what will be revealed in September.
Yeah, im gonna try to watch every second of E3 that i can to hope to hear some news about kh, maybe even some of the other games that square is producing
So, i was watching some of the videos on kh-vids, and some of them brought up some quesions for me.
1) Xigbar and Zexion are talking about their new headquarters when Xigbar mentions the room of awakening, and maybe thats where to other friend is…
2) After Axel dies, Xemnas and Saix are talking, and Xemnas says that Axel mustve touched sora’s heart, and became whole again, those arent the exact words, but it relates to that, does that mean that axel’s human form awoken?
3) and on many ocations, roxas says stuff like feel, like he hates, and since nobodies cant feel emotion, isnt it true that he could be real right along side sora?
Is it possible that the lost friend could be Xenort by any chance? What you said about Axel could be right.
That could be true that it might be Xehanort, its a long shot, because the regular human form and their nobody can coincide in the same world, that was proven with Roxas and Sora, as well as namine and kairi
Could this also be the case with Ansem the Wise’s apprentices too?
I think so, some od them i dont could have left just so easily, and some of the things they were saying, i believe all of them were using the room of sleep to get their memories back or something.
However, Roxas had no need of using the room of sleep because he had left the org. to find Sora. As of now Namine and Roxas are the only ones who have actually met their original selves. Maybe Mickey knows something about Xenort that he hasn’t revealed yet. And that could be part of “the story of the sealed truth.”
Thats a good thaught org. And Axel returned to his original form after he faded away. Ive been thinking about that with Roxas and emotion. Even if the org act like they have hearts Roxas was the one that showed them most and best. Might be something but I dont think so. But we dont know yet
I still say that Xenort is the “lost friend.” You just might be onto something, Eagl. Wonder who the main characters are going to be this time around.
It can be anyone, for the main characters, it all depends on which part of the storr or stories Nomura wants to tell next, i want to see Roxas’s part as well as the lost memories personally
well the knights have some connection with Xemnas. Or I think it was so I will check it up
Yes Nomura said it was connected with Xemnas but he could have ment Xehanort. And I have a feeling that every story except for Rikus can fit in in the FM secret ending. I mean the knights have connections with Xemnas, Mickey appeared in the ned and Ven looks like Roxas
I leaning to bet that Xemnas met his original self as well.
$20 bucks says that Roxas is a reincarnation of Ven.
I was thinking of a game we all could play. Let’s figure out the rest of the Nobodies’ real names.
Examples:
Roxas – Sora
Xemnas – Ansem
Hammers, go to the thread that was releases on may 2nd, and go to post 177, all the names are their.
And i have a theory, that i dont think anyone thought of. We’ve been all assuming that the fm secret scene occurs before kh, but what if t happens during sora’s sleep? If thats the case, then that brings me to my theory of why Ven looks so much like Roxas…Anyone remember our little conversation on “dis-souls”? beings without souls? If im correct, the Sora is the human, Roxas is the nobody, and Ventus is the soulless…
any thoughts?
actually hammers, instead of you going there i just decided to copy it for you.
Xemnas–ansem,
Xigbar–Braig
Xaldin–Dilan
Vexen–Even
Leuxeaus–Eauleus
Zexion–Ienzo
these are all the originals
Its a theory that could work but a dis-soul is when a nobody is defeated and it heartless is still alive. But still it could just be roumour. Also Nomura said that its in the past but could just as well be in the future. Or something like that
Forgot Axel]
I know, thats why its onyl a theory, but that might explain why they look alike, i could be wrong, no doubt, but its jsut a thought.
And i didnt forget hammers, when we were talking about the others in the other thread i brought that up, Axel human form wasnt an aprentice to Ansem the Wise.
It could be Ale, Lea, Eal, Ela, Lae, or Ael.
As far as this Dis-soul thing goes. I am not really int othat theory. Aren’t nobodies doomed to fade into darkness. I mean once defeated, there is no coming back.
I remember in KH2 when the Organization was after Beast they commented only about a Nobody and a Heartless.
I think the course of the secret ending must of taken place in the past, before KH1. If it were to take place during Sora’s year long nap, then that would establish that the bald guy may be a belt notch higher on the boss list. Even higher than Xemnas.
I think to help us out, I think it may be best and try and establish which game the secret trailer is hinting at, prequel KH or KH3.
I thought the same, but when i learned a long time ago, that when you defeat a heartless, a nodobody is born. I thought to myself, what if you beat that, what happens next? and the Ansem Reports in kh2 explains it pretty well to these soulless characters.
Please note that these arent exact wordings…
It said that when a heartless is created, it leaves behind the soul and the body, left to roam. Now wouldnt the soul leave the body if the nobody was destroyed, or are these things created differently?
As far as the organization, their memories are their humans memories, meaning if Xaldin only commented on a heartless and nobody, to me that means he doesnt know about dis-souls.
I think the secret trailer is hinting at a main game, not a prequel, there is just too much stuff going on, new characters, new moves, etc, to only have it contained to a prequel
I’ve always wondered about that too. Yes, nobodies are destined to fade back into darkness however; Roxas and Namine are execptions. They were able to meet their original selves. Since the other members never got to meet their original selves, do you think they faded back into darkness? Perhaps that’s why Xemnas was looking for the room of awakening within the room of sleep: to meet his original form. possibly Xenort.
well technically, the nobodies cant meet their original selves, cause the humans cant exist without their full being, but the apprentices along with namine and roxas were different, they were made differently, the apprentices basically turned themselves into heartlesses and nobodies, they werent forced
Well we know that Axel returned to his original form
Thats what my thinking is, cause Xemnas talks about how Axel touched Sora’s heart, so i think that axel was put back to his original
I think Axel died and is not coming back. He put his whole being into that attack and he faded back into darkness. I guess all we can say is that the guy might have a heartless running around out there some where.
If I am wrong, then I go back to an earlier posting that I mentioned that Sora has a bigger role in this whole thing than once thought. That the pendant he wears is a common theme through the whole series. You can’t tell me that it is coincidental that it is like that.
Going back to what I said about the bald guy. I am willing to bet there is a boss out there we don’t know about, bigger and badder than Xehanort. The was just an apprentice. There is no way he could have done all that. He just does not have the smarts to pull it off.
I was also reading other postings on here about Riku’s keyblade. Iwas playing KH2 recently and saw that he had it before he was transformed back into his orginal self. On top of that how the heck did Kiari get her keyblade. I nkwo that it says it in the magna, but I do not consider that cannon because I am going strictly off of the game.
Not to change the subject but the website, http://www.kh-2.net/ has been hacked by some Mafia hacking team supposedly from Iran. Don’t know if anyone here uses it but I just you guys should know anyway.
I dont use, but thanks for the info, a while ago we were hacked as well, might be connected, but anyways…
We are all wondering how exactly she got her keyblade, and i mean the exact reasoning, and im gonna quote interview again with nomura, where the person asked him, and he replied with there being reason that are obvious to keyblade weilders and some that are not so obvious, and i think she falls underneath the one that is obvious category.
And i agree, axel is probably gone, but if the formula is correct, than perhaps his heartless is out there, or even the soulless we keep bringing up
Excluding Xemnas and Roxas, could it be that the other organization member’s heartless are running around somewhere too?
Maybe Riku just had a spare on him and had one that was too girly fro him and passed it off to Kiari.
yeah hammers, i hope that was just a joke, cause when i first saw that keyblade, i thought it was the 3 wishes keyblade, but i think it some kind of memories keyblade.
And org, i think so, its possible i wouldnt be suprised if they were alive
can someone here tell me who this dude is in this picture?
http://www.animevisions.net/Pictures/kh/kh38.jpg
its been bugging me
I think that is Roxas or Xemnas.
My first instict is roxas as well, but the eyes tell me Xemnas, but his body structure is no where near what Xemnas should be, so Roxas may be the answer
It could the ginger bread man
Weird… I can’t even see the image…
I couldnt to but copy the text instead. I think that its Roxas even if the eyes are differnet. But the pic is from the scene when Xemnas meet Roxas in the world of darkness.
And in the novels you got to know that Axel returned to his original form
The real question here is that how much is Naumora going to follow what happens in the novels for follow up games.
So when is GoldenEyeRa going to post something new? They should do a weekly character profile on here.
The reason why he hasnt posted anything new is because there isnt any new news or anouncments, which is kinda sad
Actually, has anyone been found to head globe yet?
Hey there might be trouble with people accessing the website. I got directed towards a website called WordPress. It said that the host server was down.
WordPress is the document that was used to create and run this site, and there is either connection problems or it is like last time, and if i remember the right the last time this happened the site was hacked
Nah, our site wasn’t hacked, it was Rey’s server, which was accessed by the hacker after he breached the Admin Control Panel at FF7-DoC.com.
As for new news, nothing’s going on sadly, and I was never actually hired to do any of these things that other sites like KH Insider and KH-Vids are doing. Besides, I wouldn’t be too great at character profiles – I haven’t played a Kingdom Hearts game since last October! :D
As for Globe, the new post explains all. We’ll be officially on the look-out for a new webmaster in the coming week.
Cool, dont know how great ill be but ill try to help out in whatever way i can to get that site up and running
I know ive been gone, but the offer i made from a few months ago to help out still stands. IM not to technical, but things like charecter profiles i think i could do well at. I play the game like once a week, just touch ups like randomly running around and killing heartless, regardless (call me a nerd if you want) ive played and beaten kingdom hearts and kingdom hearts 2 over 50 times since its came out in varrious ways. im sure people can top me, but i think id be good at things involving the game.
This is what I like, dedication. Luna plays the games and beats so many times that Xemnas calls him daddy.
lol, funny, honestly, i play them because like someone will say oh did you notice in neverland someone did something somtime, and then i go back to neverlan(i have seperate save files so i can play any world any time) and im like holy S**T he/shes right. THen im just in the mood to play it again. But KH2 i play just because i love it.
Same here, Luna. For some people once they play through the game, they never play it again. I could play KH and KH2 a thousand times and still enjoy it. Same thing goes for the older final fantasy games. The only final fantasy games I haven’t beaten are FF7 and FF8.
yeah, agreed. Ive never been a huge fan of final fantasy. I like them,but im not a big fan like i am kingdom hearts. Ive beaten those games so many times, ive gone through like 6 memory cards for each game. its crazy.
Maybe the Kingdom Hearts series might have a lot of games like Final Fantasy?
The difference though, is that all the final fantasy games are not connected with the exception for 2 of them, thats why they kept going so long. KH is different, its an actual story
I remember like it was yesterday, the first time I beat FF8 and Ultimacia squealing out daddy. Not to mention, FF* had the best finishing move with Lion Heart
lol, i think that kingdom hearts will do 3 games and be done. IT seems like this last one is going to sum up and finish it all. so thats waht i think. Its a good idea, it would be a trifecta of games.
Im gonna have to strongly disagree with you luna. With what i think nomura has planned, he might have another main game after the keyblade wars, just seems like alot of story and plot to wrap up in one game
well, hmm, agreed, but i think that it will end in some kind of cataclysmic explosion where few survive. a kinda: “and in the end, those who fought against each other destroyed each other. and the world was left in ruin all following the events of the keyblade war” lame i know, but still like kingdom hearts explodes and everyone dies. i dunno though
I wonder if they will complete the love story between Sora and Kiari
Yeah, they should add a little bit more of a love scene between them.
I bet that they will heat it up this time, and then have tradgady strike sora and kairi will be like F**K no. and then it will end that way hence my other coment of her standing over soras dead motionless body. But i totaly think that the love story will heat up.
Still, I find it hard to believe that the series would come to an end. We may have learned a lot already, but there’s a greater portion about Kingdom Hearts that we don’t about just yet.
In time the series would eventually come to an end. It all depends on how far Square and Disney want to take.
Id rather them end it then keep it going with soo odd twists that just makes no sense. The only thing though, is too not end with a huge twist, i want the series to end with almost all the problems resolved, and no secret ending that may reveil another ending
yeah. i think completly tie it off so that one day they cant go, “hey im bored lets pick kingdom hearts up where we left off.” i completely agree that it needs to all come to a close, and sooner rather then later. If they start getting into kingdom hearts like theyve done with ff where the games arent connected there just random, id be upset. i want it all to end and soon, And org. i think they have more than ample time, they have 2 full lengths(or possible a movie and game) to rap it up, i think they can do it in 2 games, just dont innitiate anyting so new it takes forever to end. i mean they made nobodies new in kingdom hearts 2, but tehy pretty much ended that with the destruction of the org. so theyve shown its possible.
The destruction of the organization didnt mean the end of the nobodies…that just means there unruled right now
As long as heartles continue to exist, so will the nobodies. I wonder what would happen if the final KH game was left openended? Not every videogame has to have a happy ending, you know. Think about the third pirates movie for a sec. Remember how Jack took the map that had the Fountain of Youth on it? The director could possibly make a fourth one but not likely. Maybe adding anything else would make KH more confusing.
thats what i was talking about, i dont want that uncertainty in there. and i know that it didnt mean their desctruction, just the orgs. they were introducecd and “destroyed” in the same game.
forget my last post. i allways forget about COM, they were introduced there but destroyed KH2, so forget my last post.
well, technically, you cant say that the organization was destroyed either, cause actually, one of the members is still alive…Roxas
But what about Namine? I know her purpose was restore Sora’s memories, but now what purpose does she serve now? I’m still curious as to what that structure was in the new secret ending. I’m still quite positive that the “lost friend” is Xenort. And I think that as long as he’s alive, the organization just might return. Roxas was the only one who wasn’t really that evil when compared to the other members.
Your right, i forgot about namine, but she wasnt actually a memeber of the org, just being used by them. Axel wasnt really evil either, all he wanted was his friend back.
well, ok, roxas wasnt destroyed but he did kinda come to a physical end by joining sora, and yes, hes very much alive, but theres no method(that we know about or that i remeber) to get him back, other than turning sora back into a heartles, but with no org, whos gonna do that? pete and melificent, pffft. i dunno.
At the end of KH2 though, Roxas and Namine both left there respective bodies in a sort of spirit from to talk to each other, hes sorta back. But the whole pete and Malifecent, you shouldnt count them out just yet Luna, like she said, “my dear, you underestimate me…” Which only means to me shes got something else up her sleeve
I wonder what happened to them after the organization’s castle was destroyed. You know they’re going to come back; it’s a no brainer. It would be too easy if they just suddenly died. We know all too well what their plan is going to be again. Conquer all the worlds. Not to drift off, but why was there only one episode for Disney Castle?
i dunno, wondered that myself. But my attitude is, weve stomped melificent before, and weve only gotten stronger in the time were gonna do it again. so i dunno, i think thell be back, but i dont think its gonna be a huge problem, i think shell have a sub plot like last time.
The thing to remember is that Disney stated to Square that none o the Disney characters can die in the game.
Unless its part of the world’s story, like oogie boogie
lol, sweet. Thats cool, only weve seen a mini loophole to that because we all thought goofy was dead, but he came back. lol, i get it though he never really died so you dont need to say it. but i think thats stupid too, because i think that you need tradagy every once in a while. and if it was the king, or donald or goofy(for real, not the fake one) then it would be good.
Please, i was caught off guard when Goofy was knocked out, i never thought he was dead.
i did, he seemed dead to me. and everyones reactions were to harsh for just a knockout(in my opinion, i respect yours, just saying mine.) anyway, he came back to life or came to it or whatever we want to call it, so it doesnt matter.
Well, i guess i cant really say i was 100% sure that he was still alive, i kept saying to myself while i was fighting, that they cant do that to goofy, can they?
lol. when i was fighting i was like F**K no. ill kill them all. or something like that. i was actually mad, goofys pretty cool
As we alreay know Disney characters never die. That was a pretty hard hit though. At first I thought, impossible; no good character has ever died before. He even surrendered all of his equipment.
at first i thought goofys to resiliant to die, then i thought nooooo hes dead. But anyway, i think that eventually someone will die, no sacrafice no victory.
It won’t be a disney character. Disney stipulated that Disney characters could not doe in KH series. If someone were to die, I put my money on Riku
nah, i put my money ok Kairi. Some great loss for sora that leads to like some crazed killing spree.
You forget that if Nomura wants to tell the other sides of the KH story, hes going to tell them, and maybe he’ll make it so the players cant whine about sora not being the main character. i say its gonna be sora
I hope that sony makes kh2fm for ps2 because i have both a ps2 and a ps3 but my ps2 is still a good consol!
Oh yeah um if any of you know how to get the mythril shard because i only have one item to synthisise and it is the midnight anklet to synthisise the ?????. so if any of you know how or where the bulky vendors are i’ll be on at about 5 tomorrow.
Um, it was made for the ps2, it jsut was never released in america.
And you can syntesis the mythril shard rather than looking in every world for one certain heartless, who you may have to fight 5 of them to get one item. Just sysnthesize, im sure you have the materials to make them
what the freak it was released, oh crap i feel like a fool now. Hey is it good have you played it yet? just wondering, and if so is it better than kh2?
oh and oblivion, why havent everyone came in?
I’m a little new at this but can we talk over this or IM or something?
i have so many questions so oh, have you seen the mysterious “BOSS” after 100% of jimminys journal?
i hope you reply!!
and if any of you want to know im male 5 foot 11
and kh and kh2 is my life, i know that says alot but it is. and if you want my email address it is ????????????????????????????@???. ask me for it because ,you know SAFETY.
WWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT A MINUTE OBLIVION, I READ THAT KH2FINAL MIX WASNT COMING OUT UNTILL THE FALL OF 07. SO WHATS UP
its not for sure coming out at all fenrir. Its rumored to come out this fall. meaning that it might, but its not certain. and what kinda questions do you have, oblivion and i can share the load. just list a few and we will take em one at a time.
but im wondering, how is kingdom hearts and kingdom hearts 2 your life if you have all the questions you dont know about?
A opet peeve i have that no one seems o be listening to first off, condesnse the piosts!!! fenrir, you didnt need 8 posts there, you really didnt.
I havent played it yet, and since there hasnt been any talk of it in the past 6 months, i doubt now that it will be released in america officially.
Finally, i really didnt need to know how tall you were, come on now
oh, sorry about the tall thing there and yes it is my life but i have so many questions about ALL the stuff that they left out. Like how riku and the king made it through the realm of darkness and how he found a keblade that closes kingdom hearts. you know stuff like that but i hope that kh2fm informs all that info. And the whole tall and male thing i was just wondering who you all were! sorry
and HAVE you seen the boss? ill be back in tomorrow k latr
yes ive seen the boss. and dude, two things, one) since newer games arent out yet, we wont be able to answer those kinda questions. and two) kh2fm doesnt inform much of anything, its already out, and apparently everyone but you has seen the extra cutscenes, weve all broken them down here, your just a little late. those kinda things wont be settled until the next game comes out. and just out of curiosity, one) did you not just read oblivions post about limiting your posts! and two) who cares who you are, and you shouldent care about who we are.
Like lina said, dude, go to kh-vids.net
They have all the cutscenes from all the games that kh has made so far, whatch them, and then you can come back and ask some questions.
And although i agree with the last thing you said luna, i think its just sad that i barely know anything about the real you, organization, and very little on golden, and ive been around since april, its weird
i dont honestly care if you want to know me, id be almost happy to tell you( not i dont care as in im not telling you anyway but i dont care as in id be happy to tell you or not tell you it doesnt matter to me) and i agree, its slightly odd, were (in my opinion) this kinda online family that weve grown to sort of know but not really know if that makes any sense at all.
I get what you’re saying. Whenever I visit this site, I just know that one of are ging to respond to my post. It’s a nice feeling knowing that you guys care about what I have to say.
of course. at school, no one i know likes this game, so i dont get to talk about the game. coming here is nice because i get to kinda “be myself” involving the game. and agreed, i know that you or oblivion has had something to say in response to my last post.
other than my roommates, even though i go to an art school, not many play the game, if they do, i dont know about it.
But i agree, anything i say like a theory or something, will always be either supported or put down by one of you two, and iff its put down, i dont mind, cause at least if you do it, there is some reasoning behind it, other than people coming in here one time and like, your wrong! KH3 is gonna be for the ps2 and is coming out next week!
Same here. During the school year it feels like no one knows what I’m talking about. Then it gets me thinking. Are the games they play M rated only? My brother doesn’t even care for it as much as I do! Kingdom Hearts to me is one of those games where you could play them over and over again and never get bored. Who knows, maybe you’ll spot something interesting you didn’t see before.
If you want, I don’t mind telling you guys a little about myself. I’m curious as to what your real names are. My real name is Steven Palivoda.
Well since were on the name part, My Name is Kris MacMillan
and i know like one person who plays, and we dont talk about it. agreeing with oblivion i know that my opinions will be put up or proved wrong, and belive it or not, i like when one of you can prove them wrong because i then know im not going off wrong info.
When have you ever been completely wrong Kris?
ummmmmmmmm, i dont remember. i prolly have before, said something irrelivant to everything. im actually wrong all the time, i just usually dont post things that im not somwhat confident in.
Hey Oblivion, what’s your real name?
Yeah, sorry, not on as often as i used to be. Name is Sean Martin, pretty simple.
And im with you kris, i already know ive been wrong in posts, and after someone like you guys brings it up, i either relize what ive either misunderstood or just completly ignored certain things said.
And i was on i believe the 6th time beating kh2, and every time i found something different that explains or makes a little bit more sense
Same thing goes for the Secret Ansem Reports. I know Ansem Report 0 was readable in Japan but that might have a vital clue about the worlds or KIngdom Hearts itself. In the original secret ending, all I could read was that it had to do with Radiant Garden. I find it odd how we can’t see # 0 when Ansem the Wise was the one who wrote the report.
one day i want to study all the ansem repots to where i can recite them. but i tihnk that report 0 talked about where ansem came from. not sure though. and hey Sean.
Not that it matters but where do you guys live? I happen to live in New Jersey. Our state has the highest taxes in the country. Haven’t seen Golden latley…. I wonder what he’s been up to? Hey Sean, do you hhave an idea as to when Kh Globe will be up and running by any chance?
I live in Washington, friking boring capital of the world. and i know golden like died. jk, im sure its somewhere but i know its not been here.
He hasn’t put anything new up lately. I barely even watch the news anymore. All I ever hear about is about that war in Iraq which has no end! Not to drift away from KH, but why would you start a war that has no winner?
I dont know, it causes more problems than its worth, but if you dont mind id rather not get into disscusions about the war and or polotics.
but i am wondering and feel free not to answer but how old are you two?
I’m actually 17 years old. How about you? That’s fine, I just wanted to see what your thoughts were. Also, I’m a 10th grader in high school.
its sad, i used to be every other post, now im like very 8, haha.
But as far as globe goes, i think until the applications come in and they find someone, only then will it get started. I would apply to help it along, but i dont really have much skills and knowledge in that department though, i wish i did, trust me.
But right now im home for the summer from school in connecticut. And i go to school it pittsburgh, you think theres nothing to do in washington? try coming to a place where you be crazy to drive anywhere but everyithing is out of walking distance
lol, thats funny. but im out of schoolright now too, we start in another month, and im 16, going to be 17 in january. and i wish i could help wih globe to, but i cant unfortunatly. im not too savy, i can take a computer apart, clean it, and put t back together again, but i cant build a website. go figure.
wow, i feel like an old coot here, i just turned 19 like 2 weeks ago
thats not that old,your only two years older than the two of us. thats not so bad, my brother is 26, so when im around him i feel young and he feels old. when ur 9 years older than you should feel old. besides were all a family, age doesnt mater.
I couldn’t agree with you more, Kris. To some, I look like I should be a senior already. Besides you two, I don’t really have any friends at all. At one point I had so many friends; but then I lost contact with them. Let’s see now… I haven’t had any friends for 4 years now.
now i know your just lying, no friends? come on now
I have friends, but i also have this….lets call it a condition, and i sorta of drive my friends away. I have like 3 good friends and then you two. i mean people like me, and im somewhat popular, but i dont consider most of the people on me my friends.
Would I ever lie to you Sean? Hate to say it, but it’s true.
Well, plenty of people i would call aquantices of mine, but only a few i would call my friends
Agreed. My whole team is aquaintances of mine, but like you said only a few my friends. ang come on org. you have to have at least 1 friend besides the two of us.
Everybody that I want to become friends with are always too far away. The only person I could think of is somebody who lives in Canada. But then again, we don’t really talk to each other that much. He may be the same age as me but that doesn’t mean he’s my friend. It’s not as though he lives right around the corner. I’ve known him now for at least 11 years. We used to have a stronger friendship when we were younger. As the years went by, that bond started to weaken considerably. Andrew is just an aquaintance of mine.
During the school year, no one really talks to me because they think I’m too smart for them. In short, I’ve been alone since the 6th grade.
wow thats kinda…sad…no offense. Well since were telling life storys i guess ill contribute. I have luck with friends but not with Girls. thast where im allways loosing. Im popular, and good at sports and smart,(as i said i can take a computer apart clean it and put it back together again) same with cars and planes. but ive never found anyone. All the girls interested in me, i have no interest in, and all the girls im interested in, either wont date because of “studies” or have a boyfriend. so ive been alone. your up sean
Haha, turned from kh to personal stories, i love it. Cant say im the popular one though, not complaining, i know im not at the top of the lsit of things. But as far as gaming, smartness, and most of that other crap, i got everyone beat. And as far as the girls go, lets just say that one too many turn downs in the worse ways made me realize to lay back a little bit
ok i really started an epidimic here huh, dang man i got you all started on names and crap wow, anyway sorry yall we “lost” the internet for a while and it looks like i’ve missed a lot so this is what im going to say. Ok my real name is DJ sanders,age 15, Anderson S.C. yeah i know its a long way away, but i am almost the same as kris, seriously, all the same things except i got a girl and her name is Jana.
one more thing did you oblivion say that kh3 is coming out in one week?
hey guys my little brother wont believe me when i told him when kh2fm is coming out and kh3. So to make him believe me tell him her he is
so when is kingdomhearts2 fm coming out?
and kh3?
ok, so you have it all wrong, KH3 isnt called kingdom hearts 3, and it wont be out in a week. next, were not sure if kingdom hearts 2 final mix + will even be out in the us. so you basically told your brother a load of crap becaus there is no release dates for any of those games. no its not going to be in one week.
and im glad you decided to share with us, however next time, like oblivion has been trying to tell you, limit your posts down to one of two.
sorry he’s stupid
hello
i never said anything about it coming out in a week, it hasnt begun to be worked on yet, SO WHY WOULD I SAY THAT!!!
hes not stupid fenrir you are you were the one that told him its coming out before you knew anything at all. then you want us to back up your crap. its not his fault.
yeah i mean, they are coming out, fm might not be in america, and the 3rd game may be a few years, but theyll still come out
No No No i was trying to say that it wasn’t coming out but he was saying that it was coming out. i know that it is’nt coming out for a “WHILE” and kh2fm has a rumor of the fall but you all misunderstood what i was saying. And i misunderstood what oblivion was saying i was trying to read it so fast to keep up.Sorry
hello everyone so this is a site where we all can talk about kingdom hearts, sweeeet
sorry fenrir, i missunderstood you. and yeah Kh2lover, thast pretty much it.
I was having trouble with the internet for two days. Still, I don’t get why it was acting strange… Wish I had a girlfriend. The situation is the same for me Kris. Not one girl has ever liked me in that way. It’s so hard to make friends when you’re the oldest one out of your class.
Besides videogames, do you two have any hobbies. I collect fighter jets and I’m a great photographer. I’ve been taking pictures for about 9 years now. I probably have almost every single modern fighter jet there is currently.
Sweet, video games isnt really a hobby, its jsut fun. but hobby to me is like collecting things, but i write, i have 4 stories used in my school for the past years. and ive one 4 compititions for best fiction here in washinton. besides that, i collect cars, model, glue paint all of that. thats pretty much what i do if im not training, i play football baskteball and golf, and im using getting in better shape for football or basketball or woking on my swing for golf. all of which i play Jv and or varsity for my school. Sean?
dont matter what sport it is, i play, may not be for school or teams or whatever, but ill play anything, and its bad cause im competive at everything
lol, anything else, any spare time hobbys?
I love sports too, but there’s no way how I can fit it into my schedule during the week. There’s not one day when I don’t get howework during the year. The best I could do is probably the yearbook club.
lol, i have hella homework too, with 4 ap classes and one honors class the only time in school i get to relax is my 1st period, know what subject that is, gym, and its only not ap becase my school doesnt offer it. Then i got to whatever practice of that season. then i go home, and work on my swing for about an hour, then my dad comes home and we go play 9 holes( i live near a country club) then i do homework, then i go to my job, then i go home. i get no “me time” but its gonna pay off, i will be in the air force in collorado at the air force accademy.
That should be awesome. Someone I know wants to eventually fly the F22 Raptor. Around midnight or so my family and I are going to Canada for about a week. Unless i’m near a computer, I won’t be available for that time period. This will be our 11th trip up there. There was another thing I love to do. I love to write short stories. Around October I wrote a personal narrative that dealt with me. Every year in middle school, I was always asked the same question. “Why did you stay back?” I had always said that it was a bit complicated. Last year was when I got so ticked that I decided to write the story to shut some of these students up. But then I thought for a moment… What would I gain by doing this?
Then I decided to use this as an example. When certain students read it, they were shocked. You see, I don’t want people to become my friend becuase they feel bad for me. I’d rather have friends who like me beacuse of who I am now. If my story appears on the website that it’s supposed to appear on, I’ll let you two know.
ok then, sounds good.
i love golf i’ve never played other that putt putt (tottaly kicked butt) but i have a very authentic swing with my nine iron my dad said
you cant love something youve never played. you may play it for real one time and hate it. until youve actually played 18 on a course, you cant really say you love it.
no no i love going out in my 2 1/2 acre backyard and hitting a bucket of balls with my driver and all my irons, just practicing.
but anyway i dont know everything about kh and kh2 so i will ask 1 or 2 questions every time i come in k
no one knows everytihng, and its ok to ask questions, but dont ask things that have been covered already, its very annoying. Read the previous posts and look for the answers on google before you ask them here. it saves us time re explaining tihngs.
yeah, topics to never ask in here again
kh3 is not coming out on ps2 or within a week.
stay away from which system
and by far, do NOT ask if those soldiers are riku/sora
in general, just make sure that you cannot find the answer to your question, whatever it may be, anywhere else, goog places to look first:
Yahoo answers
Google
Yahoo
Other news articles on this website
and http://www.khinsider.com
If the answer to your question is not there then ask us, otherwise dont.
k k i know not to ask the same questions as other people but fenrir was asking about a secret boss at the end of kh2? tell me everything you know and ill try to find out info 2.
theres a secret boss at the end of final mix, one of the soldiers, if thats what your talking about
final mix what i was told it was in the hall of cornerstone after 100% of jimminys journal.
so is it harder than seperoioth.
i know i didn’t spell it right
yeah it is suppose to be, more life bars and alot tougher, jsut watch the videos of it, youll see
Finally, I have returned from my relaxing vacation. It seems to me that I haven’t missed anything important.Hey Sean and Kris, how have you guys been lately?
well im ok, ive been divying away from kingdom hearts recently, and have been into other things, so i havent posted much. You didnt miss really anytihng, the posts got fewer and fewer so i tried to start a new on in the first news post. so go there. how was your vacation?
as for kh2lover, the boss is called the enigmatic Soldier and he is in a new area aftre you beat the game. yor right, you get there by going through the hall of the cornerstone, and your right again he is tougher than Sephiroth, ten fold. meaning he is ten times stronger than sephiroth. heres a link to the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhN1eYXcd6s
Next, try and limit your posts to one please, hink about that you have to say first, and then post it, so that thers not more than one. its very irriataing reading one line 5 times.
My vacation was great. We had beautiful weather the whole time. The air up in Canada was so refreshing; compared to NJ. We actually arrived last night around 11 or so. But I was too exhausted to let you know I was back. Saw my buddy Andy up there as well. He’s really great at wakeboarding. Whether we’re in or outside we always have fun anyway. Also my story has impressed some people too.
so is the soldier boss on kh2 or khfm?
kh2fm
oh i thought it was in the hall of cornerstone in kh2 with 100% completion of jimminys journal.
Nope.
yeah…nada, i got that a while ago, and i got freaking nothing for getting 100%, just another game beat with everything completed in about 50 game hours
It took me about 70 hours or so to beat the game. I always trained in the tougher worlds first to become stronger faster. That way, the next world I visit would be that much easier. Even though I was stuck with the kingdom key until I went to the underworld, I though it was worth the wait. I died so many times in the begining on proud mode beause I was so weak.
i did the same, but i didnt die so often, i did ok for myself, the frist time i did it, i killed everytihng, there was not a single heartless that i just passed by, and i started in harder worlds like you to get stronger.
Wouldn’t you agree that it’s more fun and challenging to go out of order? Going in order sometimes makes me feel so bored….
yeah agreed.
After playing it so many times i have no choice but to go in order, otherwise it screws me all up, im weird like that, same thing with CoM, i went to the same worlds in the same order as i did in KH, otherwise soemthign would feal uneasy and i have to start allover again
lol, in com i just decided to do all the worlds i didnt like first, then i did all the ones i did like. like atlantica was first and holloween town was last. that sorta thing.
That’s a good way to do it. But in KH2 I decided to do Atlantica last. Why? Because it’s so boring anyway. I waited until the end of the game to complete it.
Not like it was necassary for that to be done, i actually did what you did and waited, so i can knock out all the songs at once, get it over with. And it was one of those places like 100 acre wood for perfectionists to complete
You said it.
well, i completed both, lol, anyway, i did it as it was unlocked so that every so often it was a little bit of a “this is G*y” i didnt wanna wait so there was a whole lotta this is G*y at the end.
hey so whats this about
KH: Coded
KH: 358/2 Days
KH: Birth by Sleep
NEW STUFF?????
talk peaple
i mean like god lol
pretty great!!!!!! i luv it
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